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Donald Trump And His Struggle With Alzheimer's?

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Skwim, Aug 16, 2019.

  1. Enoch07

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    Petty and childish splitting of hairs.
     
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    That's not splitting hairs, and culturally stuff like that makes a very big difference to some (think Chinese born Chinese and American born Chinese).
     
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  3. Enoch07

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    4 months

    He was born 4 months after they moved to the U.S. from Germany.
     
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    He was born In USA, what part of that do you not comprehend, Trump said he was born in Germany
     
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    Which means he was born in America, not Germany. I only lived in Missouri for a few months after my birth, but my birth certificate says Missouri, not Indiana, where thus far I've spent most my life.
     
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    There are plenty of scary things in Trump's head - xenophobia, disrespect for the law, disrespect for human rights, selfishness, etc. - but trying to diagnose a psychiatric condition by someone's TV appearances is never going to be valid.

    And consider something else that's happening: as time goes on:

    - Trump is getting more and more confident.
    - Trump's growing more and more distrustful of his staff (because of leaks, the Mueller investigation, etc.).
    - Trump's competent and experienced advisors - who might have had the skill set to talk him down - keep on leaving and being replaced with less and less competent yes-people.

    All this means that:

    - those around Trump are now less capable of managing him.
    - Trump is less willing to be managed.

    I'd bet that at the start of his term, Trump was better at just reading the teleprompter. He was generally coherent because he was reading someone else's words. These days, I think he's much more likely to go off-script in a speech, so now we see more of what was hidden in the past.
     
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    Trump evidently doesn't know the difference.
     
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    It is a bit odd that Trump cannot remember where his father was born. I guess no Trumpette will accept the Alzheimer's claim until Trump cannot remember where he was born.
     
  9. Enoch07

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    Splitting hairs over 4 months when you consider they are accusing him of dementia over it.

    Had his Grandfather lived here for 20 years then had his father in the U.S. sure.

    4 months, the author is being intentionally obtuse.
     
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    Its still curious that he got it wrong. Does he simply just spew crap because he knows his supporters will fully believe it? Or is he losing it?
    Its not splitting hairs. It's concerning the factual place of birth of Trump's father, and that Trump placed his American born German father as having been born in Germany.
     
  11. Enoch07

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    John 8 44-45

    44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

    45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
     
  12. Enoch07

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    It is splitting hairs, its childish, petty, nonsense.
     
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    Does that work both ways? If someone comes to the U.S. at the age of 4 months or less, can they just say they were born in the U.S.? I mean it is close enough, why split hairs?
     
  14. Enoch07

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    If their parents are U.S. citizens yes.
     
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    Armchair diagnosis are considered unethical.
     
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    So, just what ethical standard do they breach?

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    Making a diagnosis without examining the patient in person and having their medical records. That is a breach of methods. To put in out in public is unethical as methods were not followed yet a conclusion is paraded around as if it means anything. It is also an argument from authority. Hence why you made this post.

    Multiple medical organization refrain from doing this and warn their members not to. Think about it. Look up the Goldwater rule.

    https://www.psychiatry.org/news-room/apa-blogs/apa-blog/2016/08/the-goldwater-rule
     
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    Evidently I missed the diagnosis because all I saw were examples of behavior.

    Exactly what was Trump diagnosed with?


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    It's not necessarily unethical for a layperson to muse about whether a public figure has a psychiatric condition. Useless, probably, but not necessarily unethical.

    It's unethical for a mental health professional to do it because:

    - it violates the professional's obligation of confidentiality.
    - other people, knowing that the person is a mental health professional, will tend to rely on the opinion of the professional.

    Neither of these issues apply to a layperson.
     
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    Ergo the opinion is garbage as a layman is making it that has no qualification to make such a conclusion. Yet someone made the thread as if this opinion means anything.
     
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