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Dog is God spelled backwards

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
This topic was something I was developing a few years ago. I am not sure if this the correct place to put. It is OK to move it.

In essence, this topic is about the role that dogs played in the progression of the pre-human mind, leading to language, civilization, and even advanced behavior like religion. Thus the title Dog is God spelled backwards. Did dogs lead humans to God; awareness?

Domestication of dogs is assumed to have occurred about 14,000 years ago, based on fossil evidence. It is reasonable to assume that humans and dogs coexisted many years before domestication. Before domestication, each species would have retained more of their original instinctive nature and independence as a species. The value of coexistence, is the pre-humans of paradise, would have been able to learn useful skills from another apex species, that was not part of their instinct natures as descendants of apes. The result would be a blend of instinctive repression and epigenetic changes, leading to better adaptation and different mental energy.

If you compare ape and wolf behavior, both are apex species. Both are omnivores. Apes are more slanted toward the vegetarian side of omnivore, while dogs are more slanted to the carnivore side of omnivore. This simple difference, if copied by the early pre-humans would increase the protein diet of pre-humans. This will increase brain size.

Dogs are natural migratory predators and would have done well during the end of the ice age. They had skills to teach the pre-humans in terms of hunting and survival. Dogs burrow; cave animal. They can also drive out bears from caves so their pre-human pack mates could survive.

Another difference has to do with social order and structure. Apes tend to be set up as patriarchs, led by the larger males. Dogs are led by the needs of the team, which allows room for lead roles for females. The word *****, which is a female dog, is connected to a dominance behavior of females toward the males, such as during dating and mating. The females can be leaders of the pack. Early matriarchies, in terms of human development, is not ape behavior, but is closer to the dogs. Patriarchs, which come later, is back to ape.

Both dogs and apes are intelligent animals. What is more unique to dogs is the ability to do jobs. The herding dog, which would have been important early, has to be able to learn and translate intent between three or more species of animals, with or without language. At the same time, they have to figure out how to do this without a lot of supervision. There are not many seeing eye apes, protection apes, hunter apes. Job skill ethics would be essential for civilization, with dogs setting an early example by their natures. Apes are more contemplative instead of blue color. It appears dogs led humans to water, but there was a return to ape; dog becomes God; Adam.

Adam is not biology changes in the DNA but appears to reflect epigenetic change via learning.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
In essence, this topic is about the role that dogs played in the progression of the pre-human mind, leading to language, civilization, and even advanced behavior like religion. Thus the title Dog is God spelled backwards. Did dogs lead humans to God; awareness?
In Spanish, we have "perro" (dog) and "orrep"... and "Dios" (God) and "soid".

In French, it would be "chien" and "neihc"... and "Dieu" and "ueid"

In German, it's "Hund" / "dnuh" and "Gott" / "ttog".


Do you think God's favourite language is English?
 

Eddi

Agnostic
Premium Member
There's the old saying, "dog is man's best friend"

I always understood this to mean that the canine species and the humankind have a close, symbiotic relationship

However, now I own a dog I understand the phrase literally - that one's dog is truly one's best friend!
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I think you're over-complicating things. This should simplify the matter.

Dogs.jpg
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
I will, of course, agree with the position that dogs are superior creatures that are capable of a unique relationship with humans. The views of various religions on dogs is covered here: Dogs in religion - Wikipedia
 

KT Shamim

Ahmadiyya Muslim Community
This topic was something I was developing a few years ago. I am not sure if this the correct place to put. It is OK to move it.

In essence, this topic is about the role that dogs played in the progression of the pre-human mind, leading to language, civilization, and even advanced behavior like religion. Thus the title Dog is God spelled backwards. Did dogs lead humans to God; awareness?

Domestication of dogs is assumed to have occurred about 14,000 years ago, based on fossil evidence. It is reasonable to assume that humans and dogs coexisted many years before domestication. Before domestication, each species would have retained more of their original instinctive nature and independence as a species. The value of coexistence, is the pre-humans of paradise, would have been able to learn useful skills from another apex species, that was not part of their instinct natures as descendants of apes. The result would be a blend of instinctive repression and epigenetic changes, leading to better adaptation and different mental energy.

If you compare ape and wolf behavior, both are apex species. Both are omnivores. Apes are more slanted toward the vegetarian side of omnivore, while dogs are more slanted to the carnivore side of omnivore. This simple difference, if copied by the early pre-humans would increase the protein diet of pre-humans. This will increase brain size.

Dogs are natural migratory predators and would have done well during the end of the ice age. They had skills to teach the pre-humans in terms of hunting and survival. Dogs burrow; cave animal. They can also drive out bears from caves so their pre-human pack mates could survive.

Another difference has to do with social order and structure. Apes tend to be set up as patriarchs, led by the larger males. Dogs are led by the needs of the team, which allows room for lead roles for females. The word *****, which is a female dog, is connected to a dominance behavior of females toward the males, such as during dating and mating. The females can be leaders of the pack. Early matriarchies, in terms of human development, is not ape behavior, but is closer to the dogs. Patriarchs, which come later, is back to ape.

Both dogs and apes are intelligent animals. What is more unique to dogs is the ability to do jobs. The herding dog, which would have been important early, has to be able to learn and translate intent between three or more species of animals, with or without language. At the same time, they have to figure out how to do this without a lot of supervision. There are not many seeing eye apes, protection apes, hunter apes. Job skill ethics would be essential for civilization, with dogs setting an early example by their natures. Apes are more contemplative instead of blue color. It appears dogs led humans to water, but there was a return to ape; dog becomes God; Adam.

Adam is not biology changes in the DNA but appears to reflect epigenetic change via learning.
Revelation led to God. It was always revelation. That's what history says.

Reversing spellings in a recent English language and making quite an offensive proposal on that basis ... not smart. The opposite in fact.
 

Firemorphic

Activist Membrane
Or could be this dog:

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Everything is free to speculate when you're dealing with translated words that don't appear in the original language
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
In Spanish, we have "perro" (dog) and "orrep"... and "Dios" (God) and "soid".

In French, it would be "chien" and "neihc"... and "Dieu" and "ueid"

In German, it's "Hund" / "dnuh" and "Gott" / "ttog".


Do you think God's favourite language is English?

The title is less about linguistics and more about a theory where two apex species, learning from each others different instinctive natures, become new versions of the old species. Both humans and dogs became domesticated in their own way. Dogs became domesticated to humans and human became domesticated to the Gods.

I found this about the origins of the word dog.

Linguists all over the world were amazed when, while studying an extinct Australian Aboriginal language (Mbabaram), they found out that the word for dog was… dog! However, since few other similarities exist between the two languages, this was deemed a coincidence.

Dogs were domesticated about 14000 years. The Aboriginal peoples date back to 50,000 years ago.
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
The origin of modern human spoken language is dated to about 10,000 years ago. However, other researchers date it back even further. Domestication of dogs nevertheless occurs in the gray zone before modern language at about 14,000 year ago.

Lack of formal language is not a problem in terms of communication between pre-humans and dogs. Dogs have nearly as many facial muscles as humans and can express and understand emotions and body language based on subtle cues. Humans and dogs can communicate in a nonverbal way. They can also anticipate each other based on patterns that form.

I call the early humans, before language, pre-humans, because although they had human DNA, they still lacked the modern human temperament. As an analogy, both wolves and poodles are dogs based on DNA, but they are very different in terms of temperaments. The difference is domestication altering their instinctive natures. Modern humans lack free expression of natural human instinct. This has to be redeveloped due to cultural repression; fall from paradise.The poodle is in the same boat, however, living as a ferrel animal causes their instincts to reboot to some extent.

Written language is dated about 6000 year ago, which is also the time scale where the Old Testaments assumes the world begins for the new man; Adam. Written language creates a new repression for humans that alters their natures even further.
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
When I was first developing this theory, I envisioned an unprovable early story line more or less written for a children's movie.

In that fictitious opening, the first interaction of the pre-humans and dogs occurs long ago in Africa. In the beginning the pre-humans and dogs were not friends or partners, but rather they begin as natural enemies, which forces daily contact between them. The dog packs stock and hunt the pre-humans.

Both apex animals learn from each other. The pre-humans learn the dog attack tactics for their own self defense. While the dogs learn the pre-human defensive tactics to improve hunting success. The pre-humans are constantly forced to defend themselves and eventually learn to stand tall, as a body language way, to see then coming and to intimidate then with body language.

The real story begins when one day a group of prehuman children find a litter of young puppies, whose mother had been killed. Puppies, even of wild animals are sweet. The children and puppies begin a secret relationship. This is taboo, but they do it anyway out of friendship. Since they are all still wild animals, at heart, as they get older and reach adolescent, their instincts returns. However, not all the children and puppies become enemies. A bond had formed.

However, this small alliance of the pre-humans and dogs becomes a problem for the elders of both species; pre-humans and dogs, who do not trust each other. Both species drive the odd balls away and the migration from Africa begins.
 
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