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Featured Does your belief / religion ect offer a better deal ?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by John1.12, May 1, 2021.

  1. Conscious thoughts

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    I am not here to say "my belief is better than your belief" or "my belief is more correct than your belief" I have chosen the sufi path because that was what made me open my eyes to what i needed to change in my life, and as a person, and that is an ongoing prosess i am in right now, and it is far from finish.
    If the Gospel of Jesus fit your "needs" and your belief, i think it is very good that you found the teaching that make you feel whole. Nothing is better than when a person find truth from within. and maybe you have done that.

    For my own path through life, I do not rely on anyone else then my own change to be able enter paradise as spoken about in the teaching. I do not hold a belief that Allah will pick me, just because i chose to believe in him.
     
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  2. Rival

    Rival Iiu em hotep.
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    No, because not every religion is based on the idea of salvation such as Christianity is. The concept of 'good news' is a Christian concept, so of course you won't find it anywhere else.
     
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  3. John1.12

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    Ok, sounds like good news . On the certainty front. What brings you certainty in what you believe? Is there anything you point to that supports what you believe? or is it just ' intuition ' ect
     
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    What agreement are you suggesting?
     
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    John1.12 Free gift

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    That on paper with all the 'recognised ' truth claims out there ,that what is on offer by Jesus cannot be ' bettered ' .
     
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    SalixIncendium Advaita Vedantin
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    If there was a hard and fast list of requirements for my religion, I assure you that I wouldn't have signed up.

    That said, in my religion, in a nutshell, the goal of practice is Moksha, which is Self-realization/liberation from samsara, the cycle of rebirth. This is done by living in accordance with one's dharma and by learning to let go of worldly desires and attachments.

    It's for each individual determine what is "true," not you.

    That remains to be seen. But a bit of advice. Tread carefully here. This forum does not condone proselytizing.
     
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    My understanding of most mainstream religions is that in order to atain eternal life requires self effort , commitment, practicing, self denial, steps, continuing till the end and ' if ' and maybe if these steps ect have been followed then maybe there is eternal life at the end .
     
  8. Conscious thoughts

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    I do believe all forms of religions have an inward journey yes, Sufism is not called a mainstream path in Islam :) it is called mystecism path within islam :) because much of the teaching has to do with the internal and sometimes intuitive part of the person.
     
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    SalixIncendium Advaita Vedantin
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    "Better" is a matter of individual perspective. What might be better for you might not be better for another.
     
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    SalixIncendium Advaita Vedantin
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    I already have this. What else ya got? :D
     
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    SalixIncendium Advaita Vedantin
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    Good for you. My truth is "good news" for me, and truths of others are "good news" for them.

    My news might not be as good for you as it is for me. I can say from experience that your news isn't as good for me as it is for you.

    In case you haven't seen it yet, take a peek at my signature. Each individual's path is their own unique path to "God." It's not for you to mess with.
     
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    Intuition coupled with great belief in the mercy of God.
     
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    Yes, I was forgetting how insufferable smugness is another unattractive feature of some "bible-believing" Christians. :D
     
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    Explaining what biblical christianity teaches to compare with other religions is pivotal to this topic / discussion.
     
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    Ah, the small print. Not sure there's unanimous agreement on that is there?
     
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    Salvation in the New testament is described as a ' free gift ' . We should be ' smug ' and insufferable with Joy. with receiving eternal life ect .
     
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    Which mainstream ones do you glean this understanding from?
     
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    SalixIncendium Advaita Vedantin
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    So do that then. But be very careful in telling another these teachings are more true than their religion.
     
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    My point isn't ' more true ' . But rather what said religion / belief system offers .
     
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    SalixIncendium Advaita Vedantin
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    Carry on then.
     
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