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Does this idea make sense to you?

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by fantome profane, May 27, 2022.

  1. fantome profane

    fantome profane Real men protect woman’s rights.
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    Here is an idea for consideration concerning the upcoming NRA convention.

    Everyone attending should be required to carry a gun. No admission unless you can show that you have a loaded gun on your person, rifle or hand gun doesn’t matter, just as long as you can kill someone.

    According to what I have been told that should make it the safest place on the planet. All these good people with guns, what could go wrong?


    Do you think that would be a safe place to be?
     
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  2. Ella S.

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    Any answer would be speculative, I think. This seems like something that would need to be tested.

    I think we could quantitatively define "going wrong" for the sake of experiment, but doing this just once would give us too small of a sample size. Ideally, we would want to run the test on a number of randomly-selected convention centers in order to get decent data.
     
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  3. 74x12

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    It would likely be very safe, yes.
     
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  4. Wildswanderer

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    Is this some kind of " gotcha" ? Because you know there will probably be plenty of armed people there, correct? You can't carry during Trumps speech because of a rule by the secret service , not the NRA.
     
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    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    As safe as a police station I would think.
     
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    Yes, we need to do studies which means we need government funding.
     
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  7. fantome profane

    fantome profane Real men protect woman’s rights.
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    So apparently the secret service doesn’t think it would be safe.

    But no, it was not intended as a “gotcha”, it was intended as a thought experiment, an “intuition pump” if you like.
     
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    Unless you happen to be Black.

    A newer study, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences in 2019, estimates that black men have a 1 in 1,000 chance of being killed by police during their lifetimes. That’s 2.5 times the odds for a non-Hispanic white man, the authors find.
    Deaths in police custody in the United States: Research review
     
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  9. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    OK. A police station with black officers.
     
  10. fantome profane

    fantome profane Real men protect woman’s rights.
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    Would such studies be ethical?
     
  11. viole

    viole Ontological Naturalist
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    I would feel more comfortable in Europe. Where nobody carries guns, For obvious reasons.

    Ciao

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  12. Stevicus

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    I wouldn't expect any kind of shoot out to happen.

    I mean, wherever I go at any given time, I expect a third of the people around me are likely armed. I don't worry so much about these things. Besides, I'm usually polite and well-mannered, so I don't give anyone any cause to shoot me.
     
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    In the case of a political candidate or possible target of political assassination like Trump then yes it is unsafe to have people armed. Because there are plenty of people willing to die to take a shot at Trump. But in the case of ordinary people ... going to a fully armed convention is really safe.

    Most mass shooters are looking for high kill counts even if they are suicidal. They want as many kills as possible because they want to be remembered and feared. It goes back to the man in ancient times who burned a temple down just to get notoriety. It's the same thing. The ancient Greeks were apalled to find out this man's motive. So they made sure that history didn't record his name so he wouldn't get what he wished.

    So my point is that mass shooters aren't likely to get a high kill count in a place that is fully armed. They will pick soft targets like elementary schools which are "gun free zones".

    So I think you are quite safe in a place where everyone is armed. More safe than ordinary actually.
     
  14. fantome profane

    fantome profane Real men protect woman’s rights.
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    I also try to behave myself in public, but not because I am afraid of getting shot.

    I am glad to live somewhere where I have a he freedom to be an ***, whether or not I choose to exercise that freedom.
     
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    I'm pretty sure the convention with fully armed attendees would end up something like this when a gun sale goes bad and someone else admits they are with the federal government

     
  16. Stonetree

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    Okay Buster, hands against the wall and spread da legs. Not from around here,huh?
     
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    Revoltingest Abnormal before it was fashionable
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    I've been to many gun shows
    where everyone was armed.
    Never saw any trouble.
    BTW, they typically verify
    that the chamber is empty.
     
  18. Stevicus

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    The trick is to always be from around here.
     
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  19. fantome profane

    fantome profane Real men protect woman’s rights.
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    Not in my hypothetical.
     
  20. Stevicus

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    Or it might be like this scene from Repo Man.

     
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