Does the Quran Support Tahrif and Islamic Supersessionism?

[Dawnofhope]

Tahrif is an Arabic term that means distortion and alteration. The word is used by Muslims with reference to Islamic traditions that claim Jews and Christians made alterations to their revealed books, the Torah or Gospel. Many traditional Muslim scholars assert the word of God, given to the Jews and Christians had been altered.

The theme of tahrif was first characterised in the writings of Ibn Hazm (10th century), who rejected claims of Mosaic authorship and posited that Ezra was really the author of the Torah. He also systematically organised the arguments against the authenticity of the Biblical text in the first (Tanakh) and second part (New Testament) of his book: chronological and geographical inaccuracies and contradictions; theological impossibilities (anthropomorphic expressions, stories of fornication and whoredom, and the attributing of sins to prophets), as well as lack of reliable transmission of the text. Ibn Hazm's arguments had a major impact upon Muslim literature and scholars.

Adapted from
Tahrif - Wikipedia

Muslims, if the Tahrif was so clear from the Quran, why did it take several centuries after the Quran for this major theme of Islamic thought to emerge? What is the Quranic basis?

I’d be interested to hear from Christians and Jews. Is the Gospel and Torah corrupted? On what basis do you consider the central text of your faith uncorrupted?

Anyone else with something useful to say is welcome to contribute.

 

[icehorse]

great questions!

 

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There is character analysis that Quran doesn't agree with the Bible:

(1) Talut (Saul) is a Messenger and King appointed by God and is exalted and pure unlike the Bible where he envies David and has an evil spirit upon him.
(2) Lot is a honorable Messenger of God and is on par with Abraham and associated with Abraham.
(3) Aaron and the covenant to his righteous offspring was not broken, and Aaron was the true successor of Moses' and not Joshua (will take longer to explain this point by Quran allusions to verses in the Bible).

From my point of view, furthermore, killing was never allowed by God for apostacy or other things, but rather just murder or for spreading chaos in the land (oppression, leading wars, rape, etc).

Also slavery was never allowed by God (this I made a thread about it) and there is enough hints that Sarah was the true mother of Ismail (same thread talks about this point).

 

[InvestigateTruth]

Tahrif is an Arabic term that means distortion and alteration. The word is used by Muslims with reference to Islamic traditions that claim Jews and Christians made alterations to their revealed books, the Torah or Gospel. Many traditional Muslim scholars assert the word of God, given to the Jews and Christians had been altered.

The theme of tahrif was first characterised in the writings of Ibn Hazm (10th century), who rejected claims of Mosaic authorship and posited that Ezra was really the author of the Torah. He also systematically organised the arguments against the authenticity of the Biblical text in the first (Tanakh) and second part (New Testament) of his book: chronological and geographical inaccuracies and contradictions; theological impossibilities (anthropomorphic expressions, stories of fornication and whoredom, and the attributing of sins to prophets), as well as lack of reliable transmission of the text. Ibn Hazm's arguments had a major impact upon Muslim literature and scholars.

Adapted from
Tahrif - Wikipedia

Muslims, if the Tahrif was so clear from the Quran, why did it take several centuries after the Quran for this major theme of Islamic thought to emerge? What is the Quranic basis?

I’d be interested to hear from Christians and Jews. Is the Gospel and Torah corrupted? On what basis do you consider the central text of your faith uncorrupted?

Anyone else with something useful to say is welcome to contribute.

Quran supports Tahrif, but as misinterpretation and distortion of meanings of words in the Bible.
Muslim Scholars generally agree that, Tahrif has two meanings. One meaning is changeing or alteration of text and another is alteration in the meaning and misinterpretation to suit one's personal desire. All the verses of the Quran that speak of Alteration, are speaking of distortaion in meanings. There is no verse in Quran that actually says the Text of Bible got corrupted.