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Featured Does Science has nothing in common with God?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by questfortruth, Jan 20, 2022.

  1. questfortruth

    questfortruth Well-Known Member

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    The Biblical Religion says, that at the Second Coming of Jesus
    the Sun with be shining, and the human life on Earth will be going normal comfortable way.

    But Physics says that it is not possible after 4 billion years from now.

    Hence, Science does not allow God to come after 4 000 000 000 AD.

    If Science has something in common with religion,
    then religion is scientific? And science is religious, isn't it?

    More text about it is in
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/357970713_Is_Religion_Scientific

    It is spiritual war. Unfair, dishonest war.
    For example, the Voltaire has written: "If there were no God, He has to be invented. But, He exists without any invention." But only this part was repeated by atheists through the centuries: "If there were no God, He has to be invented." That is why some of my papers could become a weapon against goodness, love and truth. Because they will be cited out of context.



     
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    Rival Divine Adoratrice of Amun
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    Probably a bit of a weird comparison. Science say that Earth will basically be destroyed or at least life as we know it. Science doesn't speak about God or Jesus returning, so don't see how that could have anything in common with religion.
     
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    Science is opposit of religion/spirituality
     
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    questfortruth Well-Known Member

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    If Religion and Science have no common ground, then why are the statements of atheists unscientific?
     
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    Science requires physical validation.
    God OTOH...
     
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    If the second coming is somehow dependent on physical reality being unchanging, and if physical reality is nothing if not constant change, then the second coming would seem to be ruled out. Congratulations! You seem to have invented a brand new argument that the atheists might want to use, based on an exceedlingly doubtful theological premise.
     
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    Is it sin?
     
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    It is spiritual war. Unfair, dishonest war.
    For example, the Voltaire has written: "If there were no God, He has to be invented. But, He exists without any invention." But only this part was repeated by atheists through the centuries: "If there were no God, He has to be invented." That is why some of my papers could become a weapon against goodness, love and truth. Because they will be cited out of context.

    And Yes, the Jesus has said in the Bible, that nobody knows when He will return to Earth.
    But the Bible is fact. Any fact needs correct interpretation. That is why to get information from Bible one needs to determine for yourself the True Religion. The True Religion has both Love, Church history, and true, correct dogmas.
     
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    No, reality establishes that isn't logically possible after the Sun dies. Physics (and science in general) is merely the method by which humans have predicted that sequence of events.

    Science is an abstract concept and can't "do" anything. And by traditional Biblical reading, God can do anything he wants and so there would be nothing stopping him contradicting your reading of that scripture.

    Nope. Two things sharing one common feature (or even several) does not necessarily mean those two things are equivalent.
     
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    Only if God is just nature, and not a supernatural. Then you would be correct.

    But it's not what you meant, was it?
     
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    Are you saying God is a living being?

    OK, demonstrate it exists. Then demonstrate it is living.

    If you can't, then your claim above is nonsense, right? Anyone can make a bogus claim about things not known to exist. Anyone can repeat religious dogma as if it is true, when it really isn't.

    So why make bogus claims you can't demonstrate is true?
     
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    That's a misquote, and no offence but are you really comparing yourself to Voltaire?

    "If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him."

    He also said:

    "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."

    I am inclined to believe he was right in that second quote, as evidence suggests it is true. Though of course what one thinks is, or is not an absurdity, is often subjective.


     
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    Like when an atheist says they like Tandoori Chicken?

    You made a vague comment here, and imply that theists aren't scientific, and that atheism is congruent with science.

    Give examples of what you mean, and please write comments that have more precision and clarity.
     
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    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    In my view, science has nothing common with any God or Goddess.
     
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    Indeed. Science is an objective process that works to describe what is true about reality. Religion is the opposite.
     
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    Science describe the physical in this world, religion/spirituality describe the non physical aspect of this worl and beyond
     
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