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Does Muslim pray to God more than Christian

Discussion in 'Biblical Debates' started by serioja7, Apr 8, 2012.

  1. JacobEzra.

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    Technically it was the otherway around if the OP was telling truth. But I have been around long enough to see it happen back and forth.

    All in all it is all pretty pathetic. Seems religion is a competition to some.
     
  2. F0uad

    F0uad Well-Known Member

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    Agree, but they had a discussion i think it was a friendly one ;)
     
  3. HerDotness

    HerDotness Lady Babbleon

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    Why would anyone care unless they're in a mood to religion-bash?
     
  4. Jameela.mahreen

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    I think it varies.

    When I was a Christian I only prayed at births, weddings and funerals, or when someone close was ill or dying ... once or twice a year?

    Now I am a Muslim I pray five times a day.
     
  5. Phil25

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    Disagree that Muslims pray more than Christians.
     
  6. Bunyip

    Bunyip pro scapegoat

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    Yeah!

    And who is faster, Moslems or Christians?

    Can Jews jump as high as Hindus?
     
  7. Pegg

    Pegg Jehovah our God is One

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    i was once told that muslims do not address God as 'father'

    That seemed very odd to me. But I would question, not the quantity of prayers, but the 'quality' of them.

    There are people who pray all day ... repeating the same phrases over and over again. eventually those phrases must become meaningless because the person repeating them doesnt even need to think about what they are actually saying.

    For a prayer to be meaningful, it should be personal and from the heart.
     
  8. Shiranui117

    Shiranui117 Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
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    Muslims are called to pray 5 times a day. Christians are called to pray without ceasing.

    In the Orthodox Tradition, we have the Prayer of the Heart--that is, we pray with our entire being. Prayer becomes as natural and constant to us as breathing, and so our minds and hearts are always lifted up to God. The Prayer of the Heart has many forms--one can say "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner" or simply "Lord have mercy". The one who practices this prayer will find it beating with his heart, filling his lungs. This constant prayer loses none of its meaning, but rather it transforms our entire being, helping us to be more like Christ, to be closer and more receptive to God, and to drive sin away from us.
     
  9. Smart_Guy

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    Dunno much about the prayers in Christianity, but in Islam, prayers are of two forms and both of them are spiritual.

    The first one is the physically performed prayer and it is called "salaah" or "salaat" if in connected speech. This form of prayer disconnects us from this life in a direct connection to God. While performed, Muslims basically (exceptions are always there) ignore everything around as if they are not there. Part of those prayer are obligatory and a pillar of Islam, which are the five prayers a day, and the other part is optional and special, and it comes in way so many occasions. The longest one of them, and it is only one example of tens more, could take up to an hour or more to finish and it takes place daily in the month of Ramadan. Other examples of special cases for this physical prayer are entering the mosque, after and/or before each of the five main prayers (depends on the main prayer), for the departed, asking God for rains, late night prayer, thanking God, and some others.

    The second form is called "Dua'a" in Arabic and it is optional. This form takes place like as long as we are awake. Entering home has a prayer, starting to eat has a prayer, finishing eating has a prayer, entering the bathroom and leaving it has a prayer, traveling away and returning from it has a prayer, feeling fear has a prayer, blessing for buying a new ride has a prayer (I'm serious), slaying animals, waking up from sleep, going to sleep, starting some casual acts, ending some casual acts, sneezing, seeing something we like (different types), seeing something we don't like (different types)... and sooooo many others I can't even count. Heck, even starting a love making intercourse has a prayer.

    If you ask me, I'd say that I don't think there is any other religion can have more prayers than Islam. However, this is my opinion and I'd never impose it on my Christian friends as it is more than their prayers.

    Love you all :)
     
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    It comes from the notion that quantity is better than quality. Quantity wise I would say that Muslims pray more, five times daily (sometimes more) and always recite supplications to remember God for minor things like entering the bathroom, for safety purposes and the likes. I have seen a Common Book of Prayers and there were some daily prayers in it too, but it can't rival the quantity of the Muslims. However like many before me have mentioned before it is quality that matters.
     
  11. sojourner

    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    Why is it a friggin' contest?! :rolleyes:
     
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    I completely agree, quality is what matters. Prophet Muhammad once stopped a man from leaving the mosque several times after prayer telling him to repeat the prayer as those several repeated ones did not count.
     
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    Absolutely. Also depends on the intention of prayer.
     
  14. YmirGF

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    Isn't quality more important than quantity?
     
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    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    It's neither. The quality/quantity argument assumes that prayer is some specific activity that takes place outside our normal, daily activities. Prayer is more an attitude of life than it is an activity that is separate from life.
     
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    YmirGF Bodhisattva

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    To me, that would seem to reinforce the idea of being quality oriented. Isn't the whole idea communion?
     
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    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    Hmm. I don't think so. Doesn't that still sort of assume that prayer is some sort of encapsulated activity that can either be high or low quality, rather than perceiving prayer as a quality of life in general?
     
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    Gnostic, If I understand you correctly in that post, we have something to agree upon.

    Jesus Christ gave a model prayer which was brought to light the whole meaning and purpose for prayer. It wasn't a ritual, but a personal communication with the Creator GOD of all things.---Our Father.

    Luke 11:1-4(13), "And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his disciples said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples. And he said unto them, When ye pray, say,
    Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth. Give us day by day our daily bread. And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil."

    Believers will acknowledge GOD as their "Father" and "HIS Name"--- as worthy of Holiness, sanctity, reverence, etc.
    Believers will look for that promised peaceful promised Kingdom.
    Believers willingly submit to the Will of the Father just as the faithful Angels do.
    Believes ask for and thank GOD for their sustenance and loving care daily.
    Believers acknowledge their sins/wrong actions/contrariness to HIS Will and repent of such. Believers, also, are willing to forgive those who repent of doing them harm. (not the lip-service as you acknowledge.)
    Believers know that GOD will not lead them into temptation as they continually walk where HE has lead---and that HE will deliver one from evil that could separate one from HIS LOVE, but can not, as long as one abides in HIM.

    It is the Quality---genuineness, truthfulness, honesty, etc. that counts----NOT the length or the quantity of prayer.

    That's not to say that one shouldn't be constantly in communication (open line) with the Redeemer.
     
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    I believe sometimes it isn't how much one prays but how efectively. The Bible says the prayers of a righteous man accomplish much.
     
  20. Muffled

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    I believe you should read my post before responding to it. I said it is against God's will to attack another person's religion unless of course He is worhipping a stone or wooden image.

    I believe some Muslims have used this argument to suggest that Islam is a better religion than Christianity. That might work in the particular but not on the whole. For instance Catholics have a more reverential view of holiness than Protestants but that doesn't mean that Catholicism is better on the whole.
     
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