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Featured Does Life Require Purpose?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by SalixIncendium, May 15, 2019.

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  1. Stanyon

    Stanyon WWTD?

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    What else is there? Fictions and fairytales of invisible things produced by demented minds that befuddled the masses and give false hopes and condemnations to those who accept them.
    I imagine it is based overall on the fear that in the end none of it may really matter.
     
  2. atanu

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    Why humans take so much pains?
     
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    I think purpose is rather fluid over a lifetime. Getting your education.. then raising family.. career goals.. developing as an artist (or cook or writer or photographer or gardener)

    Maybe being a grandmother or taking care of elderly parents... or volunteering at a soup kitchen.

    I paint now and plant morning glories and moon flowers on chainlink fences.

    I have a friend who knits booties and caps for children at cancer hospitals.. I think the possibilities re endless, but it should be something you like to do even if it Mahjong or Bridge or poker.
     
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    I don't believe in any grand plan for existence or that our lives have any sort of objective meaning or value. Those things are determined on a personal level and are ultimately unavoidable. We usually find a reason to get out of bed and do things, even if our only aim is to get through another day or to stave off boredom. Even the most basic processes of life devoid of any particular ambitions, hobbies, callings or obsessions has purpose from an individual point of view. At its most basic, that purpose can be summed up as, "I'd rather not be dead."

    Beyond that base level, without which we would either cease to function or kill ourselves, are the things that people consciously ascribe meaning to. That could be caring for loved ones, being productive, engaging in hobbies or something else that a person values. It doesn't have to be wholesome mind you, serial killing seems to be as much a purpose for some people as raising a child is for others. No matter what it is, people will find some niche to fill that gives their life (from their own perspective) meaning.
     
  5. atanu

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    Reason for one's existence may be inscrutable but psychologists do posit 'Need Theory'. One famous idea is of 'Three Needs' theory proposed by David Mclelland.

    Need theory - Wikipedia

    The theory proposes that we all have three types of motivation: power, achievement, and affiliation, regardless of age, sex, race, or culture and unique mix of these characterise individuals.

    But one may further ask why one should have motivation for power, or achievement, or affiliation? Why? The answer will be "We all seek happiness in different ways".

    As per my religion, the reality is the self of unbroken bliss and the purpose is just to be - seemingly simple yet almost impossible.
     
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    I believe it sounds like you think contentment is a purpose. I believe we were created by God and that He wants us to have life on earth in a physical body. So I exist because God wants it that way. Is that a purpose?

    I believe it is part of our inquisitive nature to want to know why. However I am willing to live without an answer and simply enjoy life.
     
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    I believe that is a different question than: "does existence require a purpose." I believe God has a purpose for each person having a physical life. I believe having a pupose in life makes death more difficult. For instance I want to read all my books but I probbly don't have enough time to do it. If I am re-incarnated I will have to re-read books because I won't remember having read them before. If the Kingdom Comes, the end of the world will wipe out all the books so there won't be any to read.
     
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    I believe it is likely that morality has improved with the advent of Christianity but as Christianity diminishes people tend to revert to sinful ways.
     
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    You seem to think that humans are in a moral decline. Most people would agree with you, but you're wrong. I authored a thread on the topic some time ago. Take a look at it.

    Global Harmony is Inevitable
     
  10. SalixIncendium

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    I believe you read something into my question that wasn't there. :)
     
  11. atanu

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    As per Hinduism, there are four goals of human life: sensual enjoyment, earning money to enable sustenance of self and society, religious acts for sustenance of society, and moksha (to be freed of cycles of birth and death).

    Puruṣārtha - Wikipedia
     
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