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Discussion in 'Scriptural Debates' started by Scrooge, Nov 8, 2017.

  1. Faithofchristian

    Faithofchristian Well-Known Member

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    Seeing you have no knowledge or understanding, that not everything was written in the Greek Language.

    That's why in the back of the Strong's Concordance you will find both Greek and Hebrew Languages being Translated into English language.

    There are some words in the bible, you will not find being Translated from Greek language into English.
    But there are some words in the bible that are being Translated from the Hebrew language into English.

    That's why in the back of the book, of the Strong's Concordance you will find both Greek and Hebrew Languages being Translated into English language.
     
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    Yeah, it's me who doesn't understand!

    There are "TWO" verses out of 19 in the OT where air is translated rûaḥ, Job 41:16 and Jeremiah 14:6, (Jeremiah 14:6 means wind or breath, not spirit) and you want to believe that every mention of air in the Old and New Testaments mean spirit?
     
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    I'm guessing that your Concordance doesn't have "air" translated from Greek to English?
     
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    I didn't say that, It all depends on how the word ( air ) is being used.
    That in Jeremiah 14:6 is exactly what it means ( Wind ) it doesn't say ( air ).

    That of Job means exactly what it means
    ( Air ) it depends on the terminology that is used, for Air and Wind.

    Like that of 1st These 4:17, The ( Air ) mention here. We will meet the Lord in the
    ( Air ) being Translated in the Hebrew means Ruwach, which is ( Spirit )

    There are many different ways of using the word ( air )
    Air can also mean breath. Wind.
    It all depends on the Terminology in using the word ( Air )

    To say they used Air to blow up a balloon.
    To say they used an Air boat to go across the Everglades.
    To say they used an Air filter.
    Therefore there are many ways of using the word ( Air )
    It all depends on the Terminology it's used for.
    Therefore in 1st These 4:17, ( Air ) being Translated in Hebrew means Ruwach, which means ( Spirit ).
    Even Disciple Paul foretold that, When Jesus returns we all shall be changed from this body of flesh to the spirit.
    1st Cor 15:51--52.
     
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    Sure it does, but to get to the true meaning of the word ( Air ) go to the Greek, Then go to the Hebrew Translation, there you find the true meaning of the word ( Air ).

    In the Greek translation it gives the meaning of ( Air ) to be breath.
    So if you take the word breath and apply it to 1st These 4:17, it will not work nor Fit.

    The Verse would read, We will meet the Lord in the Breath. Are you freaking kidding me.
    We will meet the Lord in the Spirit.
    For at the coming of Jesus we all shall be changed from this body of flesh to the Spirit to meet the Lord in the Spirit.
     
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    Lol, yeah, that makes as much sense as you saying we will be [caught up] with the armies of heaven to meet Jesus in [the spirit]. That doesn't work either!
     
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    That is true, those alive and saved will meet Jesus in the air with the dead, in spirit form, not flesh.
     
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    That's all because you have No Knowledge or understanding of the book of Revelation.
     
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    Yeah, it's me, right!
     
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    Ok ,Now can you explain exactly who the dead are?
    The Verse does say, The dead in Christ Jesus shall rise first, then we which are alive and remain, shall be caught up with them to meet the Lord in the Spirit.

    Ok, so who's the dead ?

    These are not those that man's teachings will say, are dead in the graves in the ground.
    So who are the dead in Christ Jesus?
     
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    You're not serious, are you? Please enlighten us with your vast wisdom and tell us who "the dead in Christ" are!
     
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    Don't even go there, I ask you to explain who the dead are.
     
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    I thought it was the dead in the graves, so please share your wisdom!
     
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    That's Pastor's Preachers teachings.
    What does God teach in his word, Who the dead are?
    When you find out what God teaches who the dead are, Then let me know.
     
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    First of all, let's get it right, it doesn't just say "the dead", it says, "the dead IN Christ".
     
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    Let me see if I got you right,

    1 Thessalonians 4:17 (ESV Strong's) 17 Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air,

    That verse actually means,

    We will be changed into spirit beings and combine with the armies of God to meet with Jesus in spirit, is that the way you see it?
     
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    Yes,So who are the dead in Christ.
    Pastor's & Preachers will say the dead in Christ are those dead in the graves.

    That's not what God says in his word who the dead are.
    So According to God, in his word.
    Who are the dead in Christ?
     
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    All the souls in the memorial tombs/graves.
     
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    I definitely accept my teachers version of 1Thess. 4:17 over what you say it is!

    I believe we will be caught up in the clouds to meet Jesus in the air, not, we will be changed to spirit and combine with the armies of heaven to meet Jesus in the spirit, that is ridiculous!
     
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    I guess you haven't read the Bible, because that is not what is Written.
     
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