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I agree......... great post!Mr Sprinkles said:"God is testing us" argument is a vain attempt to avoid the fact that, well, sometimes bad things just happen.
Ceridwen018 said:If I were god, I would certainly end all suffering and evil.
Bryan X said:Really, you would? In other words, we'd be living in a perfect world.
Yuppers. You got a problem with that?Really, you would? In other words, we'd be living in a perfect world.
The beauty of all-powerfulness though, is that god could make it so that we WOULD be happy without things to 'hope' for. He could find a way to make it work.Does any remember that terrible movie, Bruce almighty. In it when he became god and answered everyones prayers. Nobody can be happy having everything which may be a reason that "God" does not give us what every we want but instead does not to give us somthing to hope for.
That's the problem, the spiritual isn't logical and should not be. Maybe God's test is that one can learn to enjoy a sunset or a scent of a rose without analyzing it.Ceridwen018 said:It's not so much my opinion, as it is my analysis of other's opinions. I don't believe that god exists, but the 'logic' involved in god and religion is still interesting to me.
Alright then, carry on.
Sounds like a plan to me. Would you choose not to end all suffering? If so why not? Surely if you had such power as a god does ending suffering would be simple.
Yuppers. You got a problem with that?
Hehe, If I were god, I would have ended it in the very beginning, ie, I never would have allowed it.Just think about it, Cerid. If you really choose to end ALL suffering, now would probably be a bad time to do it. Well, seeing how the world is getting worse and worse in my opinion, yes, it would be good to end the suffering everyone is going through. But then ask yourself, why am I ending it now? Why didn't I end it years ago, decades ago, centuries ago?
I think it's totally possible to have free-will without the choice of evil, but perhaps that's going a bit off topic...We're not robots. If we were, God would have programmed us to do good ALL THE TIME, thus there would be no evil at all being committed.
For starters, god is omniscient, so he knew that men would be 'sinful' before he even started creating. Nextly, if he truly didn't want us doing bad things, he either would have created us accordingly from the beginning, or he would change us now.But when He saw that man was doing only sinful things, God was so full of regret that He ever created us, because He didn't want man to do bad things.
This is equivalent to me expecting an alternative ending to a movie I have already seen, and then being disappointed when it ends with the same one as usual.That's not what He expected from us.
Why don't you think we're doing good? There's nothing our society has today that hasn't always been present in society. If anything, the human race has matured into a smarter and more grown up group--we're head and shoulders above our ancestors.He gave man a second chance. We're living that second chance now. But have we changed? Are we doing good? Obviously not.
Mr_Spinkles said:Bryan X -- You still have to take into account earthquakes, famine, birth defects, and disease. Those do not result from man misusing his free will....so why would God let those things happen? The best explanation, I think, is that there is no God....just the universe.
Mr_Spinkles said:Bryan X -- You still have to take into account earthquakes, famine, birth defects, and disease. Those do not result from man misusing his free will....so why would God let those things happen? The best explanation, I think, is that there is no God....just the universe.