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Featured Does God make everything happen how he plans no matter what?

Discussion in 'Interfaith Discussion' started by Frank Goad, Dec 28, 2018.

  1. Frank Goad

    Frank Goad Active Member

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    I think because God is all powerful the answer is yes.Just read ephesians 1:11 and see what i am talking about.
     
  2. Axe Elf

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    Yes of course. Einstein has shown us that space and time are merely two aspects of the same thing, so if God structured all of space, then He also structured all of time along with it--every moment as fastidiously crafted as every millimeter.
     
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  3. Orbit

    Orbit I'm a planet

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    Why does God plan to give children cancer?
     
  4. Nakosis

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    Or it could mean that the outcome is set but everything in between is still chosen by man. maybe "worketh" means God prods us along toward the desired outcome.
     
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    If you mean the Creator and Preserver God, It stays out of human interferences until called upon for help by a truth seeker practicing truth accommodation.
     
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  6. Salvador

    Salvador Conscious Being

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    Children with cancer merely proves there is no such thing as an omnipotent, omniscient and benevolent God; so then perhaps, God is less than perfect in every aspect.
     
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  7. Salvador

    Salvador Conscious Being

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    There's no way for an Earth-bound person to distinguish between God-created-space-time from naturally expanding space-time, now is there?
     
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    Well for sure, not benevolent god.

    1 Samuel 15:2-3
    Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘I have noted what Amalek did to Israel in opposing them on the way when they came up out of Egypt. Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”

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  9. Salvador

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    So then, an all-powerful and all-knowing God could prevent cancer; there is cancer, so then, God doesn't care to cure cancer.

    If I were to know how to cure cancer, but kept this knowledge to myself, that'd be immoral. Likewise, an omniscient and omnipotent God who doesn't do anything to cure cancer is immoral.
     
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    Salvador Conscious Being

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    That's so cruel and inhumane. ...:( ...Do people actually worship that sort of God? ...:eek:
     
  11. Nakosis

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    Could be, maybe we choose to ask for help and those that ask get prodded towards God's final plan. Those that don't are on their own.

    The end result is what? Being that of those that asked for help or do God's will see paradise. Those that don't don't.

    What would we humans really know of his final plan. Maybe it is simply to separate the chaff from the wheat.
     
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    We (the US) do the same. Isn't the death penalty meant as a deterrent? God's intent to deter man from evil.
     
  13. Salvador

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    Lots of good that did! ....:D

     
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    What a stupid job, running every vibration of every atom.
    The path of every electron around every atom.
    No wonder it gets grouchy and
    drowns everyone or sets off volcanoes.
     
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    And EVERYONE KNOWS IT DOES NOT WORK. Even the
    omniscient know it.
     
  16. Axe Elf

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    How could there be, since they are one and the same?
     
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    Quite obviously, because children with cancer are an integral part of the best of all possible universes.
     
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    They do no such thing.
     
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    So God is nature, and nature is God? ...That's a differently defined God than the classic theistic God who is all-knowing, all-powerful, and purely Good. ...:D
     
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    Only a benevolent God would want to utterly annihilate your enemies, no?
     
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