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Featured Does god love the devil?

Discussion in 'Scriptural Debates' started by Frank Goad, Sep 27, 2020.

  1. Frank Goad

    Frank Goad Well-Known Member

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    I think he does.What do you think?
     
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    Hi,
    Jehovah himsel examines the rithteous one as well as the wicked one, and anyone loving violence His soul certainly hates.
    Ps 11:5
    The first prophesy of the Bible is to be found in Gen3:15. Where it forettels the future destruction of Satan. The prophesy states that the seed (Jesus Christ) would crush Satan's head. Just form those scriptures It does not seem that God's view of Satan leave any room for doubt.
    Cheers
     
  4. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    Why is your God taking such a long time to send the seed? Why is he holding him back?
     
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    Who is God, and what is the devil are 2 variations of word description.

    The Bible says no man is God. Therefore man, as a human does not love the devil.

    So then you would ask who is Satan. For a long time we were taught that Satan was our brother.

    As our brother is only a human being, does he love the devil? Seeing he keeps quoting that he is God also?

    Then you would ask, who would love evil. Science seeks evil information, information that he says knowingly attacked the Earth body that he quotes is God x mass and also spirit (gases). Does he love destroying both bodies? Yes he does.

    So when you define love, it also has variables about what is defined is a status to describe to "Love" or to be "Loved".

    My brother is supposed to love me, a human quote. Yet he proves he does not.
     
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    Of course God love devil with NO doubts. Devil is also his creature.
     
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    God love every creature, what God do not like is sin/sinners
     
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    Hate sin, NOT the sinner. (That what is written in bible if am not wrong )
     
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    Sorry my bad english, did not mean the person, only the sin a person do :)
     
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    Don't worry my English is more bad than yours. :)
     
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    Act 3:21 whom heaven must receive until the times of the restoration of all things, about which God spoke through the mouth of his holy prophets from earliest times.

    What did the prophets from earliest times speak about that which is to be restored? The love for the devil?

    I suppose you could point to Ezekiel 28 to show that God once loved the devil. But that prophecy is speaking of a man.

    "But you are a human, not a god, and you gave your heart to be like the heart of a god." Eze 28:2

    Listen what God has planned for that man:

    Eze 28:17 Your heart was proud because of your beauty; you ruined your wisdom because of your splendor. I threw you on the ground before kings; I have exposed you for viewing.
    Eze 28:18 From the abundance of your iniquities in the dishonesty of your trading, I profaned your sanctuaries and I brought fire from your midst; it consumed you, and I have turned you to ashes on the earth before the eyes of everyone who sees you.
    Eze 28:19 All who know you among the peoples are appalled over you; you have become as horrors, and you shall cease to exist forever."'"
     
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    Time may seem very slow for an ant trying to move a mile... but it is all perspective.
     
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    Since God (as I read) is omnipotent, [he] created the devil and the devil (like everyone and everything else) can only be and act exactly in accordance with God's wishes.

    If we assume God is fond of [his] toys, then [he]'s fond of [his] devil.
     
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    Yeah, probably your God's second is equal to a trillion human years. So it may mean that the seed will arrive after humans have suffered for many trillion years - what are a few secs of God's time! Is your all-knowing, all-loving God this cruel? Does not he understand difference between his and the human scale of time, or he is just not bothered? A nice God that you worship - even after knowing all this.
     
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    Have you thought of that human beings may suffer from their own past? That as long we are in human body, it is not God who make us suffer, but our own action from past?
     
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    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    Amanaki, you are a Muslim now. Do you still believe in reincarnation and past lives? That is Kufr. The dead lie in the grave and await Yawm al-Qiyāmah.
     
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    Determinism is a product of materialist humanism but God created us able to choose even if we find it hard to act the way we want to at times.
     
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    Maybe He is waiting for you to turn to the seed who has already come and be saved through Him before He is sent again to finalise it all.
     
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    I believe when it says: "For God so loved the world...." that includes the devil who is in the world.
     
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    i believe everything happens at the right time. As it says: Jesus was born in the fullness of time.
     
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