Does anyone know what happened to the golden plates?

[Bishka]

References to Father, Son and Holy Spirit are frequent throughout the New Testament. Does the word trinity have to appear for you to believe in the deity associated with the Godhead (eternal, omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent, holy, loving, merciful). All three members of the Godhead share these attributes and make up a unified God Almighty.

Yes, actually it does.

It never once says that the Father, and the Son and the Holy Spirit are all one person. It says they are one, but that could mean they are one in purpose, but darling, that's not what this thread is about.

This thread is about the Golden Plates and the Book of Mormon.

 

[SoyLeche]

What do I have to restate? Written over a 1700 year period, by over 40 different authors, from different walks of life and the precision in which it was written based on the five themes I mentioned in my intial post. It has been supported by archeaology, it's prophecies continue to be fulfilled (the Old Testament prophecies related to Christ is the most amazing example). The fact that it is written in over 1/3 of the known languages in this world. No other book compares based on these facts.

I am curious regarding the BOM since the alleged origin of the book is stated to be written anywhere from 600 BC to 400 AD, but some of the scriptural passages seem to be analogous (with some content differences) to the style and verbatim language of the King James English Translation of the Holy Bible, which occurred in 1611??

OK, most of the BoM was written over a 1000 year period by various authors (parts were written up to 2000 years prior to this period) from different walks of life and the precision in which it was written based on the 5 themes you mentioned in your origional post. Not only is is internally consistant, but it corretlates perfectly with the books of the Bible. It has been supported by archeology and it's prophecies continue to be fulfilled. It has been translated into many of the known languages in this world (I'm not sure of the percentage).

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Why don't you let Dan speak for himself. By the way, your are too emotional as well and have been so all through this thread.

Why don't you focus on matters of substance rather than engage in ad hominem?

 

[Bishka]

Why don't you let Dan speak for himself. By the way, your are too emotional as well and have been so all through this thread.

Emotional. There you go again. You must be a master at this blueman, because you purport that you can tell peoples emotions through mere text, so tell me, what am I feeling now?

Sadness? Hatred? Rage? Happiness?

Your the expert you tell me.

Oh, and btw, Iike you to show me where I've been so emotional.

Also, instead of dodging the questions like you are so expertly trying to do, how about actually answering the question, why don't you?

 

[blueman]

Yes, actually it does.

It never once says that the Father, and the Son and the Holy Spirit are all one person. It says they are one, but that could mean they are one in purpose, but darling, that's not what this thread is about.

This thread is about the Golden Plates and the Book of Mormon.

I never said it was one being. There is one God represented by three spiritual beings (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). They are one because the possess the same attributes that I mentioned previously.

 

[blueman]

Why don't you focus on matters of substance rather than engage in ad hominem?

Who are you?

 

[Bishka]

I never said it was one being. There is one God represented by three spiritual beings (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). They are one because the possess the same attributes that I mentioned previously.

Like I said before, stick to the questions that are relevant to this thread please. If you would like to argue, debate, discuss, etc. another topic, make a thread about it.

 

[Bishka]

Who are you?

Why does it matter?

 

[blueman]

Like I said before, stick to the questions that are relevant to this thread please. If you would like to argue, debate, discuss, etc. another topic, make a thread about it.

I just clarified an issue you raised. It was you who went off course initially, but that's not an issue.

 

[Bishka]

I just clarified an issue you raised. It was you who went off course initially, but that's not an issue.

Actually it was your comment that made me raise a question (and I'll admit to going off-topic every now and then), about the nature of the Godhead. So you can blame me as much as you want, but you are at fault to, for much of the off-topic discussion in this thread.

Again, I will redirect this topic to

THE GOLDEN PLATES AND THE BOOK OF MORMON

 

[blueman]

Why don't you focus on matters of substance rather than engage in ad hominem?

Have you followed this thread or are you just chiming in to be heard?

 

[Katzpur]

Funny thing, the title of this thread is "Does anyone know what happened to the golden plates?"

That can, and has been answered in a word: No. And 112 posts later, it's still the answer. Is anybody besides me wondering how much longer this is going to go on?

 

[Bishka]

Have you followed this thread or are you just chiming in to be heard?

Darling, I'd ask you the same question. Now, would you stop sloppily dodging the questioins and evidence and actually backup your claims instead of insulting others and going extremley off-topic?

 

[Bishka]

Funny thing, the title of this thread is "Does anyone know what happened to the golden plates?"

That can, and has been answered in a word: No. And 112 posts later, it's still the answer. Is anybody besides me wondering how much longer this is going to go on?

Sorry Kathryn, I'm having too much fun pointing out bluemans inconsistencies....:sorry1:

 

[blueman]

OK, most of the BoM was written over a 1000 year period by various authors (parts were written up to 2000 years prior to this period) from different walks of life and the precision in which it was written based on the 5 themes you mentioned in your origional post. Not only is is internally consistant, but it corretlates perfectly with the books of the Bible. It has been supported by archeology and it's prophecies continue to be fulfilled. It has been translated into many of the known languages in this world (I'm not sure of the percentage).

HMM, sounds rather familiar in scope to the Holy Bible. I wonder why while having many glaring differences regarding the nature of God and Jesus Christ. That is where my level of doubt exists as it relates to it's origin and subsequent translation by Joseph Smith and then those dreaded golden plates? I'll do some more research.

 

[Bishka]

HMM, sounds rather familiar in scope to the Holy Bible. I wonder why while having many glaring differences regarding the nature of God and Jesus Christ. That is where my level of doubt exists as it relates to it's origin and subsequent translation by Joseph Smith and then those dreaded golden plates? I'll do some more research.

Why are the golden plates so 'dreaded' to you?

 

[blueman]

Sorry Kathryn, I'm having too much fun pointing out bluemans inconsistencies....:sorry1:

What inconsistencies might that be? I raised a plausible issue relevant to this thread.......Could it be that the golden plates never existed and the credibility and integrity of the pioneer of the LDS Church. It's just a thought, but a plausible and relevant one.

 

[Bishka]

What inconsistencies might that be? I raised a plausible issue relevant to this thread.......Could it be that the golden plates never existed and the credibility and integrity of the pioneer of the LDS Church. It's just a thought, but a plausible and relevant one.

You really want me to go over all your faults on a public forum?

I'd rather not, but focus on the issue at hand.

You have given one shred of evidence of why the plates could not exist, we've given several, and many things to do with historical and archaelogical things.

How about addressing those instead of sidestepping the issue?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

What inconsistencies might that be? I raised a plausible issue relevant to this thread.......Could it be that the golden plates never existed and the credibility and integrity of the pioneer of the LDS Church. It's just a thought, ...

... though somewhat less than a coherent sentence. Nevertheless, to the question ...

Could it be that the golden plates never existed?​

... I suggest that the obvious though underwhelming answer in "Yes". Similarly, to the question ...

Could it be that the virgin birth and resurrection never existed?​

... I suggest that one could also answer "Yes" with full justification. Now, can you demonstrate to me why the existential possibility of the former is less than that of the latter?

 

[blueman]

You really want me to go over all your faults on a public forum?

I'd rather not, but focus on the issue at hand.

You have given one shred of evidence of why the plates could not exist, we've given several, and many things to do with historical and archaelogical things.

How about addressing those instead of sidestepping the issue?

So I am going to provide you with evidence that the plates never existed, just like your going to provide evidence that they did? As I mentioned on more than one time in which you obviously ignored, I will analyze the numerous links Dan provided an respond accordingly. If you don't agree with what I have raised as being a possibility, that's fine. I can understand why you would'nt agree. You raise the issue of inconsistency. I think I've been rather consistent regarding my opinions.