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do you think everyone could regret?

Discussion in 'General Debates' started by .lava, Oct 29, 2010.

  1. .lava

    .lava Veteran Member

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  2. LuisDantas

    LuisDantas Aura of atheification
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    Having adequate environment and encouragement, everyone can develop regret. Even uncalled-for regret.

    It is not necessarily easy, or even worth the trouble, however.
     
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    I've understood hunting for food but I'll never understand the mind of one who kills an animal, child or innocent human for kicks.

    This disturbs me so my emotional reaction to this may not suit your answer very well. I have read books about serial killers and it seems many will start off by killing and torturing animals. There seems to be this detached personality as if the dog or person wasn't even a being but an object. I've read some nazi memoirs about this kind of thing as well. It's as if there is no feeling or empathy there.

    They may regret it in the end but it seems these types of crimes fit the pattern of a sociopath or someone who is disconnected to that entity or being.
     
  4. ChristineES

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    That is incredibly disturbing to me.

    “He really crossed the line... I don’t think we’re dealing with a normal human being here,” she said.

    I think the person not being normal is an understatement.
     
  5. kai

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    who ever did this has some real problems and should be locked up.
     
  6. DallasApple

    DallasApple Depends Upon My Mood..

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    I dont know..a coyote ate my cat..

    I think I would eat grass and dirt before ..

    But I cant be a hypocrite..I eat chicken and beef and meat now..

    My mother made me a bowl of homeade soup last night..(it was delicious! LOL) ..It had pieces of chicken in it..

    So I dont want to be a hypocrite..
     
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    Let those who hath not sinned cast the first stone.
    John 8:7
     
  8. .lava

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    i really like that verse you share but i don't see the relation here. are you suggesting that one must be a sadistic psychopath to condemn what a sadistic psychopath did?

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    This is disturbing, I say. Well, in my opinion, someone who have done something like this might eventually regret it. But it might take some time, especially when it is caused by a psychological distress.
     
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    This is very true and eventually, after killing or torturing animals, they end up killing people for no reason (pyscho killers).:yes:
     
  11. .lava

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    yes, very disturbing. unfortunately this is not a one in a million incident. it happens more often than before. it has become a part of our daily news and IMO it is not like eating meat, killing animals to comsume them... etc.

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    So you're saying that if there's among us here who haven't done anything wrong shall "cast his stone" (judgment) on someone who have done this? Is that it?
    Well brother,that's not the point here. You're misusing the scripture and I won't tolerate it. It is not applicable in this situation.The "guy" have done something wrong and his act should be condemned. Kai is right, that "guy" should be locked up or something like that.
     
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    That's very sad... What have these "creatures" (like a dog) ever done wrong to them?
     
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    The adulterous woman was just as guilt as the man here, yet you say I am misusing scripture? Why? Because this act is somehow more intolerable than adultery? Because this crime is so bad that the man doesn't deserve to be redeemed?
    Does he have to face the consequences, of course he does. We all have to do that. I never said don't put him in jail. The scripture tells us not to condemn. There is a difference.
     
  15. .lava

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    i am unsure how this is going to be related to adultery but speaking as a human, i would have to say: yes, this is more intolerable than adultery, naturally. when two people commit adultery it is their choice. it is 100% their right to use their free wills. what choice did that dog have exactly? and how could we even compare something that's done to an animal with what people do thanks to their free choice and agreement?

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    If believers here think this was an atrocity, then why wouldn't they think god isn't psycho? Numerous scriptures describe killing babies, people, children by the commandment of god because he didn't see innocence?
    One thing I believe all killers have in common: they want to have control over their victms.....
     
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    everything dies, let alone death is not the end. IMO God takes whatever it gives in the first place. that's why i would not compare it with any criminal act of human. whoever killed that dog was not the one who gave life to it and he won't be able to make it alive again

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    Would you consider "cloning" god's work or man's?
     
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    we are going to jump from one subject to another for what? and what does any of this have to do with animal cruelty? this is funny. OP tells about someone or some people cutting an animal into half basically for sadistic reasons and nothing more and we have a reply about adultery and one for comparison of human to God. i would not compare human to God because God is not human.

    PS: God lets men do it. IMO human has nothing in his power except his choice to turn to God or not. even that eventually ends because we die and we return

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    No, for some people regret and remorse are impossible. Some people have brain architecture that does not allow for these otherwise normal emotional processes. This is what we're referring to when Christians talk about evil and demonic influence shaping the world...
     
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