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Do You Support Lowering The Federal Election Age to 16?

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by esmith, Mar 15, 2019.

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  1. Curious George

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    Absolutely. Civic involvement should be fostered and encouraged.
     
  2. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Libertarian Capitalist Atheist Bokononist
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    You think Pelosi would propose this for political advantage?
    Oh, you cynic.
     
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  3. 74x12

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    Yeah, they want more low information voters. If it was up to me the voting age would be increased to 30. And I've been saying that since 20 something; just so no one thinks I'm hypocritical about it. :D
     
  4. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    The woman definitely has bats in her belfry.
     
  5. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    There's a reason why 16 year olds are considered minors.
     
  6. Stevicus

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    It's a pretty arbitrary reason, though.
     
  7. Skwim

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    I don't think we need any more ill informed voters.

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  8. Kangaroo Feathers

    Kangaroo Feathers Hardline moderate

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    And everyone under the age of 29 should be in prison. Probably beaten every other day, too.
     
  9. Quetzal

    Quetzal A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
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    I disagree with lowering the age. Think of the dumb 18 year olds out there. Now do the same thing with 16 year olds. No dice!
     
  10. Stevicus

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    What about the dumb 50 year olds?

    Maybe we should just forbid dumb people from voting, regardless of age.
     
  11. Quetzal

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    Too much paper work. 18 is already established and it is my opinion that we do not have a need to adjust it at this time.
     
  12. WalterTrull

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    Oh, I don't think that. However, I do think the voting age should not overlap the age of fodder.
     
  13. Shad

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    I rather see mandatory voting then a bunch of children voting.
     
  14. Daemon Sophic

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    While I (oddly) agree with your sentiments on this issue, I tend to see one restriction to voting that should be added. Mental capacity. The targets of conmen almost invariably tend to be the elderly, because they are the ones who are vulnerable.
    Senility should reach a measurable point that results in the loss of voting rights (and driving privileges).
    < sits and waits for how this flies like a pile of bricks >

    Edit: I’m agreeing that if they are old enough to join the military, then they are old enough to vote.....not the state by state thing.
     
  15. sun rise

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    As has been noted, age and maturity are two separate things. Some 12 year olds are more mature than some 50 year olds.

    But given that the brain is still maturing even into the early 20's, 16 is too young for the vast majority of kids in spite of some getting married that young.
     
  16. Hubert Farnsworth

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    One person's vote, by itself, is not going to have an impact on anyone else's life. One person's driving very well could have a major impact on other lives. The driving age should definitely be higher than the voting age, and most 16 year olds are not actually mature enough to drive. I would say raise the driving age to 21 but for practical purposes, I think 18 is adequate.
     
  17. Hubert Farnsworth

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    My solution is that politicians (in every country) who vote for wars should be required to fight in the wars that they vote for. I'll bet the world would be more a much more peaceful then.
     
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  18. Revoltingest

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    But it has an infinitesimally small effect upon an enormous population.
     
  19. Hubert Farnsworth

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    It doesn't have an effect, unless the election is decided by one vote. Posting on social media about politics has a far greater effect on the population than the act of voting. But either way, driving is a much more serious responsibility.
     
  20. Revoltingest

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    In effect, you're saying that no vote matters except if a single vote matters.
    Clearly, this is not a useful view of voting.
    Instead, consider the reciprocal of number of voters multiplied by
    the effect of leaders to arrive at the individual's probabilistic effect.
     
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