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Do you support big businesses?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Bishka, Apr 11, 2007.

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  1. Bishka

    Bishka Veteran Member

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    Why or Why not?
     
  2. nutshell

    nutshell Well-Known Member

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    Yes - because I believe in the supply and demand type capitalism we enjoy in the U.S. If there is a demand for big business then it should be supplied.
     
  3. PureX

    PureX Veteran Member

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    No, the bigger the business the less likely it is to be concerned about an individual's welfare, or even the community's welfare. Commerce, like government, works best when it's kept small and personal. When we have to look each other in the eye as we trade our goods and services, we're far more likely to understand that the purpose of commerce is to benefit everyone involved. And is NOT to get as much profit out of the deal for ourselves, as possible.
     
  4. Ðanisty

    Ðanisty Well-Known Member

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    I agree. Plus I like to see small local businesses succeed. It gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling that I don't get shopping at big businesses.
     
  5. Comprehend

    Comprehend Res Ipsa Loquitur

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    of course. without it we would all be living like it was 1800.

    cars, televisions, telephones, DVDs, computers, satellites, software, books, pens, paper, and almost ever other thing on this planet is made available and affordable by big business.

    the industrial revolution is the reason why we are not 85% farmers. Thank big business for that.

    Big business allows all the hippies to sit around and complain about big business rather than pick potatoes...
     
  6. Comprehend

    Comprehend Res Ipsa Loquitur

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    yeah, and that is what a business is supposed to be....... mother.
     
  7. Aqualung

    Aqualung Tasty

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    Plus, businesses tend to experience economies of scale, so big businesses do everything more efficiently. So, it's better for everybody.
     
  8. nutshell

    nutshell Well-Known Member

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    Not to mention the number of jobs provided by big busines.
     
  9. Aqualung

    Aqualung Tasty

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    And the fact that when businesses are more efficient, they can sell their supplies for cheaper and still make the same profit (and therefore still be able to pay their employees the same wages), so consumers can spend more of their money on other things, making the cost of living go down and leaving people with more "leisure" money, if you will.
     
  10. Guitar's Cry

    Guitar's Cry The "I" in Reality

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    Big business is also based on economic science, which is inherently flawed. Infinite growth within a finite system is suicide. It is in no way effecient. Rather, it is unstable.
     
  11. Scuba Pete

    Scuba Pete Le plongeur avec attitude...

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    I support my business getting BiG! :D
     
  12. Circle_One

    Circle_One Well-Known Member

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    Nope, I support small businesses.

    I ONLY buy my CDs, Vinyls, DVDs and toys(figures :p) from small locally owned shops.

    They ALWAYS have the rare stuff that big businesses don't.
     
  13. zenzero

    zenzero Its only a Label

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    Big businesses stands on there own and so going the way of the mind by thinking on aspects like supporting them or not is totally meaningless and allowing the mind the lease that it is looking for.
    Watch the businesses of the mind even the small ones [thoughts] that it is throwing up.
    Love & rgds
     
  14. Aqualung

    Aqualung Tasty

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    Economies of scale don't last forever. It's NOT infinite growth, because ecnomic science knows that at some point economies of scale will become diseconomies of scale, and the businesses will STOP expanding. It would be unstable if they continued expanding, and they would lose money, which is why they don't.
     
  15. Ozzie

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    Yes because I like my comforts: electricity, takeaway, cheap flights etc..
     
  16. eudaimonia

    eudaimonia Fellowship of Reason

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    Support big business... in what?

    I support the idea that companies that grow large because they have learned how to satisfy the needs of their customers through some combination of high quality, low prices, convenience, etc, have a moral right to conduct business.

    I do not support the idea of corporate welfare.

    I do not like corporate influence over government.

    My sympathies are stronger for small businesses and entrepreneurs, though I do not harbor any prejudice or hatred for big business as a whole.

    Big businesses should not be considered immoral as a whole for the same reason that one should not consider all poor people lazy or thieves. There are good poor people and bad poor people, just as there are good corporations and bad ones.

    What I support is free market capitalism without favoritism.


    eudaimonia,

    Mark
     
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  17. PureX

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    Inventions are as likely to occur on a small scale as on a big scale. It was the assembly line method of production that made these inventions cheap enough for most people to afford. "Big business" was not a necessary requirement. And in fact, it was when "big business" began using the assembly line method that we got the robber barons of the early 20th century, and blood ran in the streets of America. It was "big business" that forced workers to unite into labor unions to fight them for decent working conditions and a living wage. The big businesses themselves, and the robber barons that owned them, would have been perfectly happy working children to their deaths for peanuts, for the sake of maximizing profits. And they have not changed even to this day. They would still work children to their deaths for profit if they could get away with it. It's why so many of them are closing their shops in America and moving to third-world countries, where they an get away with it.
     
  18. PureX

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    The difference between commerce and exploitation is that with commerce, the deals benefit everyone concerned. While with exploitation, one side benefits at the expense of the other. When businesses are run purely for the sake of profit, exploitation will be "just good business". And that's exactly how businesses in America think and behave. And the bigger they are, the more profit driven they are, and the more exploitive they become.

    Businesses live off the community in which they exist, yet in America, they presume that they owe absolutely nothing to that community. And so they exploit their communities for their own profit. Which makes them parasitical.
     
  19. Guitar's Cry

    Guitar's Cry The "I" in Reality

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    Hm...maybe you're right. Does that actually happen, though? Do the big businesses actually stop growing in order to save money?

    What inspired my post is the way that resources are typically treated in this economy. Thye become nothing but an end to a means. Resources equal a way to gain profit.

    We exist within a closed system: the planet Earth. Many resources are renewable, but only if given the time and means to do so. When increased profit becomes the goal of a business, ecological stability takes a backseat.

    Will the point at which a business stops expanding also be the breaking point of a healthy ecology?
     
  20. kateyes

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    Since I own and operate a small business--I try to support the same. Whenever and wherever possible I purchase from small independant business. I do have to confess since I live in a relatively rural area--there are times when I don't have alot of choice and have to shop at a chain (but even then I try to use a local Michigan company--vs- the big national chains).
     
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