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Do you like to Debate?

Discussion in 'General Debates' started by Psalm23, Oct 23, 2021.

  1. Psalm23

    Psalm23 Active Member

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    Do you like to debate? What do you like to debate about? What do you dislike debating about?
     
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  2. Brinne

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    It's a love/hate relationship. I enjoy having to justify or back up my thoughts and beliefs, as it can help me either discover a better way to explain or something or that maybe I need to do more research in on area.

    I dislike when debates aren't done in good faith. Such as assuming the worst in the other person and then making an assumption based on that. I also dislike the over-reliance on what I can only describe as "fallacy-splaining." Basically when someone's only response is "strawman" without engaging in any kind of discussion -- though that's mostly an online thing in my experience.
     
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  3. SalixIncendium

    SalixIncendium अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
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    Not even a little.
     
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  4. Lain

    Lain An Intervallic Time Traveler

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    I love to debate. It doesn't often come through but almost any time I am debating someone it is in a very joking tone for I consider it basically a form of play-fighting and hardly ever something very serious. On top of that in the midst of them I always come out with new knowledge and frequently end up changing my positions on things which is exciting.

    I like debating about morality and theology, especially with other Christians because the closer you are in perspective the sharper the differences become which is amazing to behold. I dislike debating about politics mainly because I am unfamiliar with it and find it to be generally boring, although the few aspects I know anything on I do like debating if only because it can be hilarious.
     
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  5. JustGeorge

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    No, not really. I prefer to discuss. Debates too often end in fighting, and I am too lazy to fight over something that probably doesn't matter anyways.
     
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  6. Psalm23

    Psalm23 Active Member

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    Debates can stress one out as well. I was passionately speaking about a political subject with my mom once and I started to feel anxious afterwards.
     
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  7. Truthseeker9

    Truthseeker9 Non-debating member when I can help myself

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    I don't like debating. As this forum is mostly about debating, I sometimes slip into that mode. I prefer to find points of agreement with people that I like.
     
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  8. Unveiled Artist

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    To be honest, I don't like to debate. I don't start debates for the heck of it and never was an intentionally argumentative person to even want a debate (long story). All debates I've been in turns into a debate rather than my approaching it as one. What I like? It depends on the person(s) and their emotional aura. They can say the moon is made out of cheese and debate that but if emotions get in the way it takes on a totally different perspective. What I don't like? When people confuse discussion, debate, and argument. It leads to a snowball affect that no matter how nice my tone is it never gets pass paragraph one.
     
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  9. Truthseeker9

    Truthseeker9 Non-debating member when I can help myself

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    Yes, exactly. Too often there is debate about things that don't matter anyway. I am learning not to do that very often. Debate entrenches each side more than ever at the end.
     
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  10. Psalm23

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    That’s understandable about confusing discussion with debate. I suspect one may get upset if he/she had mistaken the discussion for a debate or argument.
     
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  11. Truthseeker9

    Truthseeker9 Non-debating member when I can help myself

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    If you come out with new knowledge, you are definitely not entrenched with your original position, which is a sign of humility.
     
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  12. Jeremiah Ames

    Jeremiah Ames Well-Known Member

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    I like to debate about anything.

    And I will take either side.

    But it’s impossible to debate with stupid.
     
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  13. stvdv

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    No, I have a different hobby

    I like to share information, not debate about. IF someone likes it, fine, he can use it. If they don't agree, well they can drop it.

    Two options: People like what I share or they don't. Experience taught me that usually, esp. those over 50, won't change their mind, so why debate? Seems more like a kind of word-ego-gymnastics to me, most of the time.

    I'm fine with others thinking or believing differently than I believe. I feel no need or urge to change them.
     
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  14. Vinayaka

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    No, I don't. Most debate is just a reason for proselytising.
     
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  15. Trailblazer

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    I do not like to debate about anything with the intention of winning because I consider that egotistical.
    I much prefer a discussion to a debate, a sharing of ideas back and forth with the intention of learning from what the other person thinks or believes.
     
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    Take C19 + vaccinations for example. The ultimate proof that many feel no respect and impose their views on others, even constitutional rights are not honored any more.

    People only get angry and frustrated and impose their opinions on others (and nowadays not just opinions are imposed); really disgusting, childish and sickening how our society went down in just 1 year (this "disease" is spreading even the world now, and faster than any virus could, using the internet)

    And anyway, with all the censorship going on now, I can't even say how I feel about a certain C-subject. Double proof how useless debating is.

    That proves that people are not open at all, so I stopped debating a long time ago. If people can't handle different opinions and especially if they belittle others over it, then they are clearly the infantile ones and not ready to debate, or maybe debating is just for them to learn the lesson to respect other opinions
     
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  17. SomeRandom

    SomeRandom Still learning to be wise
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    I like debating because I kind of just got used to it.
    I grew up in a family full of educators. So I was constantly having to argue random positions. Play Devil’s Advocate or encouraged to flesh out my opinions on a book or movie I happened to watch. Or my favourite author or whatever. Like it was just par for the course. And you know this is all at family dinners, Christmas/Easter celebrations with alcohol flowing abundantly. So whilst the “tactics” they used were clearly teaching tactics, it was always just fun and goofy and drunk.

    I really hate the “debate me bro” online culture that has sprang up online in recent years. Like there’s this subculture that seemingly doesn’t recognise that debate is not just about who is right, but how much more convincing one side can present themselves as. Like I’ve seen qualified experts lose debates to people who were just better with rhetoric and presentations. So it’s rather useless in a way. It can be a helpful tool to help flesh out your own opinions but that’s about it.
     
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  18. Heyo

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    Yes.
    Anything I feel knowledgeable enough to enter into a debate. I'd be embarrassed if I'd have to take a lecture from my interlocutor.
    Unspecific questions - and too specific questions. Both tend to devolve into anything but a debate.
     
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  19. The Hammer

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    As long as I am Right.
     
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  20. Kooky

    Kooky Freedom from Sanity

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    That's actually when I enjoy debates the least. Nothing is more obnoxious than to see people insist on being wrong.
     
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