do you believe that the Garden of Eden is a real place?

[Elliott5779]

It did exist, it exists no longer

How do you know it doesn't exist anymore?

 

[shmogie]

How do you know it doesn't exist anymore?

No one has ever reported finding it.

 

[Milton Platt]

i was curious whether or not people believe the Garden actually exists and why they believe one way or the other.

I believe the people who wrote the story believed it was a real place.

 

[Milton Platt]

No one has ever reported finding it.

How do you know it existed in the first place?

 

[Elliott5779]

No one has ever reported finding it.

Maybe everyones been looking in the wrong places.

 

[Elliott5779]

How do you know it existed in the first place?

Because i know the Torah is true and someone i know, through his research, discovered one of the entrances.

 

[Milton Platt]

Maybe everyones been looking in the wrong places.

LOL. Where would you suggest?

 

[Milton Platt]

Because i know the Torah is true and someone i know, through his research, discovered one of the entrances.

Where is the article published? This would I think be a tourist meca for theists by now.
How did he determine there was a garden there?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Not necessarily. It could have been simply overrun by weeds and the decay brought about by time. It's not like it had a supermarket and town hall to distinguish it. The fact that science hasn't determined that there has been a flood means nothing.

No, science has determined that there was no flood. Tell Me your version of it and I will explain how we know that it is wrong.

 

[Ellen Brown]

How do you know it doesn't exist anymore?

Few take 10 dimensions seriously. I think the best Physicists are Jews.

 

[Elliott5779]

Where is the article published? This would I think be a tourist meca for theists by now.
How did he determine there was a garden there?

He hasn't been able to go there as of yet, it's not a simple trip. He only knows of it through his research.

 

[Milton Platt]

He hasn't been able to go there as of yet, it's not a simple trip. He only knows of it through his research.

Then he has a hypothesis at best, not a discovery.

When he has published his research paper, please post a link.

 

[Elliott5779]

Then he has a hypothesis at best, not a discovery.

When he has published his research paper, please post a link.

Right, G-d willing i will.

 

[dianaiad]

....

JW is short for Jehovah's Witnesses. They are a christian sect but not considered Christian (or followers of Christ) since they disagree with the trinity and most of what's in Christian history that make Christian, Christian. I don't know where to put them outside of being a follower of Christ. Very fundamentalist in their views.

Well, they ARE Christians. The hierarchy goes:

Abrahamic
Christian
Restorationist (a category that does not include Orthodox..including Catholics...or Reformationists...those are the Protestants...and does include Seventh Day Adventists, Mormons, and all the descendants of the "Stone-Cambellite" movements. None of 'em agree with one another very much)
Jehovah's Witnesses.

I have met a few, awhile back, who didn't consider themselves to be "Christian," but that was awhile ago. I think it was a 'picky definition' thing.

Doesn't make 'em right.
Doesn't make 'em 'saved.'

But they believe in Jesus Christ and claim to follow His teachings, so....yep. They are Christians.

I guess the real question, one I have asked many times, is...who 'considers' someone to be "Christian,' when that someone claims to be one, and why does anybody have the right/authority to do that?

As in, who died and made 'them' God, that 'they' can declare who is, and who is not, 'Christian?"

...........sorry. I forgot to take my curmudgeon hat off.....

 

[Milton Platt]

Well, they ARE Christians. The hierarchy goes:

Abrahamic
Christian
Restorationist (a category that does not include Orthodox..including Catholics...or Reformationists...those are the Protestants...and does include Seventh Day Adventists, Mormons, and all the descendants of the "Stone-Cambellite" movements. None of 'em agree with one another very much)
Jehovah's Witnesses.

I have met a few, awhile back, who didn't consider themselves to be "Christian," but that was awhile ago. I think it was a 'picky definition' thing.

Doesn't make 'em right.
Doesn't make 'em 'saved.'

But they believe in Jesus Christ and claim to follow His teachings, so....yep. They are Christians.

I guess the real question, one I have asked many times, is...who 'considers' someone to be "Christian,' when that someone claims to be one, and why does anybody have the right/authority to do that?

As in, who died and made 'them' God, that 'they' can declare who is, and who is not, 'Christian?"

...........sorry. I forgot to take my curmudgeon hat off.....

So it would be wise not to believe anyone who says they are a Christian......

 

[Earthling]

No, science has determined that there was no flood. Tell Me your version of it and I will explain how we know that it is wrong.

You weren't there. You can only speculate.

 

[Subduction Zone]

So it would be wise not to believe anyone who says they are a Christian......

That is about what one has to do. But at the risk of breaking Godwin's Law that would make you know who a Christian as well.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You weren't there. You can only speculate.

Wrong again. Perhaps you do not know the meaning of the word "speculate".

 

[Milton Platt]

You weren't there. You can only speculate.

No, we can look for evidence of the flood

Were you there when the flood occured, or is that speculation?

 

[Bear Wild]

i was curious whether or not people believe the Garden actually exists and why they believe one way or the other.

It is a interesting myth.