Do you believe in reincarnation ???

[Ozzie]

Hebrews 9: 27
...it is appointed unto men once to die,...

Oops, I accidently voted wrong...

I don't believe in reincarnation...

Could a mod fix that thx...

Buddhists do not necessarily have to "believe in reincarnation".

 

[Shadow Wolf]

There is no need to repeat this life... It wouldn't do us any good...

You do not repeat the same life. Reincarnation is not the popular new age believe of living a life over and over until you have it right. You live this life, die, and are born into an entirely new one. You are also not limited to race, gender, species, or possible even planet.
I have lead armies of vast numbers in some past lives. I also joined 3 Native American tribes together to fight back white man in another. This life has not been like any other life I've lived.

 

[FFH]

I have lead armies of vast numbers in some past lives. I also joined 3 Native American tribes together to fight back white man in another. This life has not been like any other life I've lived.

What comes to mind when you say these things is possibly someone's spirit is influencing you to such a degree that you begin to hear and think the thoughts of that person who once lived on this earth and experienced those things and you assume they are your own thoughts..

How do you know you have lived other lives, did someone tell you this ???

 

[FFH]

YmirGF/Paul,

I saw your post and really don't know what to say in response, just pondering what you wrote...

 

[FFH]

You do not repeat the same life. Reincarnation is not the popular new age believe of living a life over and over until you have it right. You live this life, die, and are born into an entirely new one. You are also not limited to race, gender, species, or possible even planet.

Ah, I see, thanks for clarifying that...

 

[FFH]

I see that the No's have pulled ahead 20 to 18, didn't expect that..

 

[Shadow Wolf]

What comes to mind when you say these things is possibly someone's spirit is influencing you to such a degree that you begin to hear and think the thoughts of that person who once lived on this earth and experienced those things and you assume they are your own thoughts..

How do you know you have lived other lives, did someone tell you this ???

They are of my own. There are various meditation techniques used to see your past lives.

 

[michel]

I believe in reincarnation; it is an essential part of the framework of my faith.

 

[YmirGF]

I see that the No's have pulled ahead 20 to 18, didn't expect that..

That is the beauty of reincarnation FFH. In no way do you have to believe in it, as it simply does not matter, eventually you will "see" what we are yabbering about, lol. Wait until you get a load the that which seeds the incarnations. Trust me, friend, that is a show-stopper and one you are not likely to forget after you have had your own "appointment with gnosis".

 

[joeboonda]

I don't believe in reincarnation.

 

[logician]

Reincarnation is silly, because if true, nobody living, would have an "original" consiousness, likewise, I don't think coming back as a cockroach is something I would look forward to.

 

[Jaymes]

Why's the idea of not having an "original" consciousness silly?

 

[logician]

Why's the idea of not having an "original" consciousness silly?

Because sometime in the past there would have had to have been original "consiousnesses". Since there would have only been few in the beginning, how did these "branch out" to the billions of people existing today. Also, how do you compare the consiousness of a human to an ant?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Also, how do you compare the consiousness of a human to an ant?

Good question. Since we really can't ask them and expect a verbal answer, we can observe them.
But, are our consciousness' really that much different from a beast or insect? While humans are without a doubt capable of much deeper thought, and better suited for a more complex life, in the end, survival of self and sometimes the herd, and some sort of comfort are sought after be all forms of life. For all our understanding of the brain allows, it is possible that our own "emotions" are artificial, and preconditioned.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Good question. Since we really can't ask them and expect a verbal answer, we can observe them.
But, are our consciousness' really that much different from a beast or insect? While humans are without a doubt capable of much deeper thought, and better suited for a more complex life, in the end, survival of self and sometimes the herd, and some sort of comfort are sought after be all forms of life. For all our understanding of the brain allows, it is possible that our own "emotions" are artificial, and preconditioned.

Exactly! And consciousness shouldn't be related to knowledge. The consciousness of a dog is just as conscious as the consciousness of a human.

 

[Muffled]

I voted "yes." Although, reincarnation is not usually the term we use. We usually refer to the transmigration of consciousness as "rebirth."




Peace,
Mystic

I agree that rebirth is a subset of reincarnation as is resurrection.

I voted "I don't know" because the evidence is not overwhelming in favor of rebirth. The evidence for resurrection is more secure.
There is the evidence of Jesus's statement about John the Baptist and the "once to die verse does not necessarily refer to multiple incarnations but to one incarnation at a time. The Bah'ai scripture on this subject appears to be fallacious human reasoning.
Krishna supports rebirth but I haven' read enough to discern whether his claim to divinty has validity.

From a human reasoning standpoint it makes a lot of sense. First it is consistent with God's judgement and mercy. His judgement because not all the scales of justice are made level before death. His mercy because it is not his desire that any should go to Hell and another life is another opportunity to accept God as Lord and Savior. I conceive of rebirth as a consequence of the fall of man ie. with the fall came death which necessitated rebirth. In a period of paradise on earth there is no death and no need for rebirth.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

I agree that rebirth is a subset of reincarnation as is resurrection.

I voted "I don't know" because the evidence is not overwhelming in favor of rebirth. The evidence for resurrection is more secure.
There is the evidence of Jesus's statement about John the Baptist and the "once to die verse does not necessarily refer to multiple incarnations but to one incarnation at a time. The Bah'ai scripture on this subject appears to be fallacious human reasoning.
Krishna supports rebirth but I haven' read enough to discern whether his claim to divinty has validity.

From a human reasoning standpoint it makes a lot of sense. First it is consistent with God's judgement and mercy. His judgement because not all the scales of justice are made level before death. His mercy because it is not his desire that any should go to Hell and another life is another opportunity to accept God as Lord and Savior. I conceive of rebirth as a consequence of the fall of man ie. with the fall came death which necessitated rebirth. In a period of paradise on earth there is no death and no need for rebirth.

Very interesting! :yes:




Peace,
Mystic

 

[logician]

Exactly! And consciousness shouldn't be related to knowledge. The consciousness of a dog is just as conscious as the consciousness of a human.

I disagree strongly with this statement, you have nothing to prove this assertion.

 

[MaddLlama]

I disagree strongly with this statement, you have nothing to prove this assertion.

Do you have anything to disprove it?

 

[logician]

Do you have anything to disprove it?

Yes, the awareness of their surroundings of humans and dogs is much different.