Children can't be "brainwashed", because there's nothing in their brains to be washed.
You're talking about indoctrination, which is impossible to avoid no matter how hard you try.
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Do you believe because your parents did? If so, WHY?
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Children can't be "brainwashed", because there's nothing in their brains to be washed.
You're talking about indoctrination, which is impossible to avoid no matter how hard you try.
Now that I can agree with. My mother never taught me about religion when I was a child at all- except that she didn't believe it and the reasons why not. That is indoctrination to non-belief, I can suppose because I never questioned her until I was at least 13 years and never to her face. That is my experience, and probably the same of most of the members here- whether it be religion, non-religion, politics, and whether cats or dogs make the best pets.
FREE-of-FAITH
FREE-of-FAITH
Sorry, Buddy, but although there is brainwashing in a few cases, for the most part, parents teaching their children their religion is not brainwashing- especially not where I live. I just don't agree with you on that- I just haven't seen much evidence of that in my 47 years on earth. And you can show me your "proof" but I doubt it will convince me of anything.
I realize I forgot to welcome to the RF.
First of all thank you!
Secondly, you are American, so can you acknowledge, at least, that the threat of terrorism in the U.S is the result of extensive brainwashing?
Secondly, how much travelling have you done to make such a bold assertion that brainwashing is only a few cases? I mean this in the nicest way possible but "where you're from" is such small fraction of the world!
What do you mean by extensive?
FREE-of-FAITH
FREE-of-FAITH
Indoctrination is rather conspicuous, I am talking about brainwashing, where at a very young age children are brainwashed to hate! Believe me having travelled across the world I've seen this with my own eyes and as I mentioned the reason terrorists are bred is the result of this brainwashing!
Many Muslim children are told that martyrdom is the greatest path to heaven! What sort of impact do you think this has on the child as he grows older?
Many Muslim children are told that martyrdom is the greatest path to heaven! What sort of impact do you think this has on the child as he grows older?
Do you intend to answer the question or not?
FREE-of-FAITH
FREE-of-FAITH
I mean that in many Muslim countries there are extreme methods used to brainwash children to hate. I grew up in the Middle East and remember this. We were told to yell death to America and Death to Israel as part of a morning chat prior to going to school!
FREE-of-FAITH
FREE-of-FAITH
I did, is there anything specific you required?
What metrics do you employ to claim extensive brainwashing?
No, you simply babble.
Maybe. But the terrorists I see don't appear to be "brainwashed" by religion or their parents or by following the faith of their parents- they may be influenced by government, indoctrinated early to their faith,- but anger and hatred is not caused by what you call brainwashing. Following a faith is not the same thing as becoming a terrorist- not all Muslims, for example are terrorists- most of them are not. The Muslims I know, while dressing differently, are not all that different in any other way than others This kind of thing isn't done by parents teaching their children their faith at all.
And I am former military- I have been outside of my country and my state. My husband is retired Navy and has been all over the world.
FREE-of-FAITH
FREE-of-FAITH
What do you mean?
I couldn't have been any more clear, please read what I wrote
Telling children to yell death to a Nation that they know nothing about is clearly a form of brainwashing.
Is 'extensive' determined by the number of terrorists? ... by their percentage of the population? ... by their percentage of their faith group? ... by the onerous character of the ideology of the worst terrorist? What?
BTW: was the terrorism directed against the Wisconsin Sikh community an example of this "extensive brainwashing"? What about the Red Terror in Spain?
FREE-of-FAITH
FREE-of-FAITH
I didn't say all forms of terrorism result from extensive brainwashing, but I clearly pointed out an example of what we were brainwashed with as children. If you want me to respond, as I have done so to all your questions, I ask you kindly to not be rude with your innuendos about me babbling when I answered your question. If you intend on patronizing me then I will not answer because nobody deserves to be talked to that way.
You paint with a broad brush. That's not being free of faith. That's being full of bigoted presuppositions.
FREE-of-FAITH
FREE-of-FAITH
Well would you still say that after reading the following verse in the Quran:
[FONT="]Surah At-Tawbah (9:29)[/FONT][FONT="][/FONT]
[FONT="]Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled[/FONT]
I would ridicule your rather tiresome Islamophobic quote-mining.
FREE-of-FAITH
FREE-of-FAITH
That's great, but your insults don't offend me. I am free of faith for a reason, because superstition holds back the mind. As I said, if you intend on insulting me solely because I share my personal childhood experiences of having been brainwashed to hate and breaking away from that later on in life, well go ahead by all means but don't expect someone to respond to you kindly when you're patronizing them and showing no respect for their experience in life!
FREE-of-FAITH
FREE-of-FAITH
And there you go again with the name calling. I am simply telling you what is being taught to children and where the source of the brainwashing is.