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Do you agree with this website?If no.Why?And please give bible verses for your answer.If you can.

Discussion in 'Scriptural Debates' started by Frank Goad, Aug 13, 2022.

  1. Frank Goad

    Frank Goad Well-Known Member

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    Hades: The conscious realm of the dead!

    I. Interesting verses that use Sheol

    Job 7:9

    "When a cloud vanishes, it is gone, So he who goes down to Sheol does not come up."

    If Sheol is merely the grave, it makes no sense for such a verse would make exhuming a body impossible. It is the soul that cannot be brought back!

    I do agree with this site.:)
     
  2. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    "Na mrutyur na sankha na me jati bhedha, Pita naiva me naiva mata na janma;
    Na bhandhur na mitram gurur naiva sishya, Chidananada Roopa Shivoham, Shivoham."
    Nirvana shatakam - Hindupedia, the Hindu Encyclopedia


    I do not have death or doubts or distinction of caste,
    I do not have either father or mother or even birth,
    And I do not have relations or friends or teacher or students,
    As I am Shiva the all pervading happiness,
    Yes,I am definitely Shiva

    Death, birth, heaven, hades, sheol, graves have no place in my belief.
     
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  3. Hockeycowboy

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    Yep, “"When a cloud vanishes, it is gone, So he who goes down to Sheol does not come up."

    If this is true (which I believe it is), then it couldn’t have been Samuel talking to Saul!

    Frank, you’re talking about two different things.
    Sheol is not a literal grave. Look up in Hebrew, the words “Sheol” and “a grave” as in a tomb. They’re different.

    Maybe this reasoning will help you: Sheol is the condition the dead are in: all the dead in Sheol are in line for a resurrection. (Apparently not everyone who ever lived is in Sheol, ie., will be resurrected; some who knew the Truth but still were wicked, like Judas Iscariot & the religious leaders who had Jesus killed, went straight to Gehenna / the Lake of Fire.)

    Whereas the literal grave or tomb, is simply a place where a body is.

    And when a body is given life, it “becomes” a soul, a person (Genesis 2:7). However, when life leaves a body (at death), both the body and the person / soul dies. Ezekiel 18:4
     
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    I agree that in Biblical point of view there is death, hades and hell (=Gehenna), because:

    Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them. They were judged, each one according to his works. Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. If anyone was not found written in the book of life, he was cast into the lake of fire.
    Revelation 20:12-15
     
  5. Frank Goad

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    In the king james version of the bible it says Job 7:9 is talking about the grave By it's self.:):confused:
     
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  6. Muffled

    Muffled Jesus in me

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    I believe the body can be exhumed but that will not bring it back to life which is the meaning of the verse. It has nothing to do with the spirit.

    I believe the Bible supports reincarnation of the spirit as well as resurrection of body and spirit.

    I didn't read much but I already disagree that the spirit is trapped with the body.
     
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    Muffled Jesus in me

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    I believe you might as well believe in the tooth fairy. Are you planning to let your dead body just rot on the place where it died? The government will surely take issue with that.
     
  8. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    Belief in tooth fairy is for you, if you will. I want my dead body to be given to a medical college so that student can dissect it and learn.
     
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