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Featured Do liberals and atheists honestly think Hitler represents Christianity?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by ronki23, Jan 6, 2019.

  1. ronki23

    ronki23 Well-Known Member

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    I'm trying to get through the Mao and Pol Pot thread but the notion that Hitler represents over 2 billion people is stupid.
     
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    Revoltingest Libertarian Capitalist Atheist Baconist
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    No, Hitler doesn't represent them (his tenuous association notwithstanding).
     
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    exchemist Well-Known Member

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    This all sounds very silly to me. Isn't this just a case of whataboutery?
     
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    Dekrikos Augustine Life Person Thing

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    I would have to agree with you.
    Hitler was certainly a celebrity with the Catholics of his time, but by no means was he a representative of the entire church (let alone all of Christianity).
     
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    Both the insistence that Hitler is to Christianity as Pol Pot or Mao is to atheism are false equivalencies. Neither being Christian nor being atheist means that you would approve of a political system that uses totalitarianism.
    For similar reasons, the religious views of Einstein are not important in the discussion of the intelligence of the group.
     
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  6. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    Hitler was a catholic leader of a mainly protestant country. His actions, writing and speeches indicate he was a religious person who believed he had god on his side. But the guy was a total nut job with outward signs of psychosis or schizophrenia, paranoia and probably pathological narcissism, who would believe a anything that made him feel superior.

    Whether he represents christianity, his actions were more akin to old testament rather than the christian new testament
     
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  7. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Libertarian Capitalist Atheist Baconist
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    No, they strike me as equivalent because in both cases the
    religious orientation doesn't determine their governing style.
    "False equivalency" is so over-mis-used.
     
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    No I mean the false equivalency being
    "Hitler/Mao/Pol Pot was Christian/Atheist therefore other Christians/Atheists are like Hitler/Mao/Pol Pot."
     
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  9. ChristineM

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    But Hitler had a moustache, so did Stalin, it all makes sense now
     
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    ... and both Hitler and Stalin had heavy formal doses of establishment Christianity. What that has to do with facial hair is unclear.
     
  11. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Libertarian Capitalist Atheist Baconist
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    OK
     
  12. ChristineM

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    'tiz called humour
     
  13. ronki23

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    The people he murdered followed the Old Testament...
     
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    Hitler suffered from PTSD and was on both cocaine and opiods
     
  15. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    Yup many did, but he did not only murder Jews.

    I dont see any genocides or mass murders or land grabs and war in the NT
     
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    You can't blame the Old Testament on Hitler killing Jews when they also believe in the Old Testament and not the New Testament.

    Hitler was literally inbred and suffered from PTSD. He also took cocaine and heroin.
     
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    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    He suffered quote a lot including occasional blindness, raging headaches, ear problems, abdominal problems, hypertension.

    Cocaine and opiates along with amphetamines were commonly prescribed way back then
     
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  18. ChristineM

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    I did not say he killed jews because of the OT, i said his actions were more akin to the genocides, mass murders etc of the OT.

    It is disputable whether he was inbred or not although it would not be surprising, there was a lot of it about in Austria of the time
     
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    True....
    True........
    Some folks are so extreme in their atheism that they need to crank their minds in to believing that Hitler was all about rebuilding Christianity. It's so wonky that it's crazy.

    Hitler was prepared to do away with most Christians and had already started with the JWs.

    Some Christian......
     
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    Are you implying that he wasn't a celebrity among the Protestants? Fact is, Christianity in Germany during the Third Reich was predominantly Protestant. Typically its membership was twice that of Catholics.

    My impression has always been that Hitler was not a religious man, nor did he really care what kind of Christian anyone was, except, perhaps, the few Romani Christians.

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