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Do Dravidians own Veda as their religious scripture?

Terese

Mangalam Pundarikakshah
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If i am not wildly incorrect, Dravidians are an ethnicity. So it would not be out of the picture to say not all Dravidians adhere to the Vedas.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
No one owns the Vedas, truth belongs to everyone, if its not truth then its not your's, its not worth anything.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Depends on the Dravidian. Just as the wise will say Sanskrit and Tamil are brothers, so too are Vedas and Agamas.

But yes, some will put more stock in certain scriptures.

I have no idea why it would matter one iota to a non-Hindu other than as entertainment value ... to pose a divisive question, and then observe its divisiveness.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Depends on the Dravidian. Just as the wise will say Sanskrit and Tamil are brothers, so too are Vedas and Agamas.

But yes, some will put more stock in certain scriptures.

I have no idea why it would matter one iota to a non-Hindu other than as entertainment value ... to pose a divisive question, and then observe its divisiveness.
My intention is to unite the people. Truth unites the world. Right? Please
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sayak83

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Do Dravidians own Veda as their religious scripture?
Regards
Firstly Aryans and Dravidians are racist terms unless they are used in the context of ancient history. Far far back there may have been two civilizations but they have merged and intermingled to create a joint civilization long time back. The current South Indian civilization has been a great center of Hindu (including Vedic, Agamic and Bhakti) and Jain religion and culture for more than two millenia. Given the destruction caused by the long Islamic dominance of the north, much of classical Hinduism and Jainism would have been lost without the immense contributions made by the people of South India.

Video evidence:-
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Firstly Aryans and Dravidians are racist terms unless they are used in the context of ancient history. Far far back there may have been two civilizations but they have merged and intermingled to create a joint civilization long time back. The current South Indian civilization has been a great center of Hindu (including Vedic, Agamic and Bhakti) and Jain religion and culture for more than two millenia. Given the destruction caused by the long Islamic dominance of the north, much of classical Hinduism and Jainism would have been lost without the immense contributions made by the people of South India.

Video evidence:-
"Firstly Aryans and Dravidians are racist terms unless they are used in the context of ancient history. Far far back there may have been two civilizations but they have merged and intermingled to create a joint civilization long time back."

Among other things history gives us a chance to correct our wrongdoings, if knowingly or knowingly our ancestors have committed them. Maybe the water that have flown in the river Ganges have witnessed that an entire civilization had been deprived of their identity .

Regards
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
My intention is to unite the people. Truth unites the world. Right? Please
Regards
The same can be said of most wars, the British invasion of India, the Muslim conquests, etc. Often it is not well thought out. There may be good intentions, but without wisdom attached, it can fail miserably.

When you say 'My intention ..." like that, it sure sounds like you are proclaiming yourself some new messiah. In fact, you, like m, are just a small voice on a small forum in today's world.I realise that's not your intention, but choosing one's words wisely is in order.
 

sayak83

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"Firstly Aryans and Dravidians are racist terms unless they are used in the context of ancient history. Far far back there may have been two civilizations but they have merged and intermingled to create a joint civilization long time back."

Among other things history gives us a chance to correct our wrongdoings, if knowingly or knowingly our ancestors have committed them. Maybe the water that have flown in the river Ganges have witnessed that an entire civilization had been deprived of their identity .

Regards
It's your baseless presumption that South Indian civilization has been somehow deprived of their identity.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
It's your baseless presumption that South Indian civilization has been somehow deprived of their identity.
For centuries they have, may be under the secular India, where one man one vote rules, the Dravidians are reviving.
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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
paarsurrey said:
For centuries they have, may be under the secular India, where one man one vote rules, the Dravidians are reviving.
False. Regards.

"Dalit, meaning "oppressed" in Sanskrit is the self-chosen political name of castes in India which are "untouchable".[1][2] Though the name Dalit has been in existence since the nineteenth century, the economist and reformer B. R. Ambedkar (1891–1956) popularised the term.[3] Dalits were excluded from the four-fold Varna system and formed the unmentioned fifth varna; they were also called Panchama.[4]"
Dalit - Wikipedia
Please
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sayak83

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paarsurrey said:
For centuries they have, may be under the secular India, where one man one vote rules, the Dravidians are reviving.


"Dalit, meaning "oppressed" in Sanskrit is the self-chosen political name of castes in India which are "untouchable".[1][2] Though the name Dalit has been in existence since the nineteenth century, the economist and reformer B. R. Ambedkar (1891–1956) popularised the term.[3] Dalits were excluded from the four-fold Varna system and formed the unmentioned fifth varna; they were also called Panchama.[4]"
Dalit - Wikipedia
Please
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The entire South Indian civilization is Dravidian civilization. The Dalits are the lowest caste of both North Indian and South Indian Dravidian culture. There is clear distinction between "Dravidian" and "Dalit". Low caste oppression and untouchability are clearly reprehensible but that has very little to do with North Indian/ Dravidian question. The ancient kingdoms and civilizations of South India had Dravidian Brahmins and Dravidian Kshatriyas as well as Dravidian lower caste etc.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Do Dravidians own Veda as their religious scripture?
After thousands of years of mixing, there is no division between Aryans and Dravidians. All Hindus consider Vedas as their scripture.
Among other things history gives us a chance to correct our wrongdoings, if knowingly or knowingly our ancestors have committed them.
Do you realize what all atrocities your religious compatriots have committed in history and are still committing them?
Cruel images from Iraq and Syria - Google Search
"Dalit, meaning "oppressed" in Sanskrit is the self-chosen political name of [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_in_India']castes in India
which are "untouchable". Though the name Dalit has been in existence since the nineteenth century, the economist and reformer B. R. Ambedkar (1891–1956) popularised the term. Dalits were excluded from the four-fold Varna system and formed the unmentioned fifth varna; they were also called Panchama.
Yeah, it is a political term. People use it now for personal benefits. Missionaries and Muslims use it in their attempt to fracture Hindu society. Dalits are not 'Panchamas' (fifth). They are the fourth (Shudras - meaning manual workers in employ of other people). So, really all service class people are Shudras if they work for others. 'Panchama' is equivalent of 'Chandala' - people who have been ostracized from the society because of any serious crime they may have committed.[/URL] You are welcome. Any more questions?
 
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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
The Dravidian say that their religion is different from that of the Aryan race:
"In Europe, the Germanic race practiced its Germanic religion, the Greeks had the Greek or Hellenic religion, and the Slavs followed the Slavic religion. It thus follows, that since there is no one Hindu race, there is also no one Hindu religion. Hence the Sudroid races of Dravidians, Dalits, Adivasis and Kols all follow Shaivism or Sudric Religion. The Aryans follow Vedism and Vaishnavism, collectively referred to as the 6 orthodox (`astika') schools of Brahmanism. The Mongoloids generally follow Shaktism, while the Sino-Tibetan peoples follow Tantrism."
Raceandhistory.com - Myth of One Hindu Race

Please
Regards
 

sayak83

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Staff member
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The Dravidian say that their religion is different from that of the Aryan race:
"In Europe, the Germanic race practiced its Germanic religion, the Greeks had the Greek or Hellenic religion, and the Slavs followed the Slavic religion. It thus follows, that since there is no one Hindu race, there is also no one Hindu religion. Hence the Sudroid races of Dravidians, Dalits, Adivasis and Kols all follow Shaivism or Sudric Religion. The Aryans follow Vedism and Vaishnavism, collectively referred to as the 6 orthodox (`astika') schools of Brahmanism. The Mongoloids generally follow Shaktism, while the Sino-Tibetan peoples follow Tantrism."
Raceandhistory.com - Myth of One Hindu Race

Please
Regards
Who is the author? What is his credentials? Anybody can say anything in a website. Why do you believe him and quote him?
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
What is his credentials? Anybody can say anything in a website. Why do you believe him and quote him?
The Dravidians, Dalits and Untouchables have suffered grossly most in the Post-Vedic times. Their viewpoint needs to be appreciated. Please
Regards
 
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