Some Christians and Muslims claim that the Christian god and Allah are the same god. Considering that some Muslims are treating some Christians rather badly, Growing Trend in Mideast: Muslims Beheading Christians | United with Israel, the question for debate is: Are there separate Heavens, do these Christians and Muslims get separate areas in the same Heaven or do they mingle? If so, might that not create some tension?
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Do Christians and Muslims go to the same Heaven?
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Unveiled Artist
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Id assume because Allah as somewhat different expectations of practice and worship than God, His place and ways of punishment would differ too. It wouldnt make sense thst it would be the same. In the Bible, only christians who believe in Christ: (collective word for belief in crucifying ones sense, being being born again to follow Christ, to say you want Jesus to be your Lord and savior,nas a result the belief in your resurrection back to God. Im not sure Muslims have that, at least not in that way.
So, I would assume they dont go to the same heaven.
Unveiled Artist
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(Devil's advocate) Not true.
So if we have two different gods with different heavens which one of them actually created the universe?
So you are saying the Christian god and Allah isn't the same god?
That's because Islam claims that.
Muslims insist that the Christian revelation has been distorted, and that what Jesus taught was in fact Islam. Christians reject that claim and do not accept the Qur'an as being from God. The question of whether or not we have the 'same god' is unintelligible.
Basically it's a silly question because Christianity makes no claims about Islam, but Islam makes claims about Christianity.
The religions are mutually exclusive, one party must be wrong. How the mistaken will be judged is a question of your own faith.
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Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
who's to say that any of them go to heaven.
lostwanderingsoul
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nothing in the Bible says people go to heaven. in fact it says no man has ascended to heaven.
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Xenosaga Dragonzord
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if the christian people accept tawhid & they reject trinity................yes they will go to jannah (islamic heaven)
true meaning of islam are submission to one God....
all sabian,christian,judaism,muslim & all human/jinn who accept Tawhid/God Is One & they reject atheist/polytheist/trinity even they never heard about islam will enter paradise
Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. (Holy Quran 2.62)
Ubadah bin As-Samit (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu ’alayhi wa sallam) said, "He who bears witness that there is no true god except Allah, alone having no partner with Him, that Muhammad is His slave and His Messenger, that `Isa (Jesus) is His slave and Messenger and he (Jesus) is His Word which He communicated to Maryam (Mary) and His spirit which He sent to her, that Jannah is true and Hell is true; Allah will make him enter Jannah accepting whatever deeds he accomplished". [Al-Bukhari and Muslim].
non-muslim people who never heard about islam but they accept Tawhid/God Is One.........will enter paradise.
Like abraham he found Tawhid is the truth & polytheist is wrong, when he still young & before he became prophet.
Al-Bukhaari (44) and Muslim (193) narrated from Anas that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “Whoever says Laa ilaaha ill-Allah (No God except One True God & He is Allah SWT) and has in his heart goodness the weight of a grain of barley will be brought out of Hell, then whoever says Laa ilaaha ill-Allah and has in his heart goodness the weight of a grain of wheat will be brought out of Hell, then whoever says Laa ilaaha ill-Allah and has in his heart goodness the weight of an atom (or a small ant) will be brought out of Hell.” (Sahih Hadith)
Non-muslim people who never heard about islam or received wrong version of islam & they are non-tawhid/non-monotheist people...will enter al-araf (border between hell & heaven). No happiness & No Suffering in al-araf.......very silent place
all children from muslim & non-muslim parent who died before reaching puberty........will enter jannah
The Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) said: “Last night, two people came to me and woke me up and said, ‘Let’s go!’ So I set out with them, … We went on, and came to a well-flourished green garden with all kinds of spring colours, where there was a man who was so tall that I could hardly see his head in the sky. Around the man was the largest number of children I had ever seen. I said to my 2 companions: ‘Subhaan Allaah! Who they?’ … They said: ‘As for the tall man who was in the garden, that was Ibraaheem (عليه السلام). As for the children who were around him, those are all the children who died on a state of fitrah (natural disposition).'” One of the Muslims asked: “O Messenger of Allah, what about the children of the disbelievers (Non-Muslim)?” He said: “And the children of the disbelievers (Non-Muslim)” (Bukhari)
insha Allah SWT
true meaning of islam are submission to one God....
all sabian,christian,judaism,muslim & all human/jinn who accept Tawhid/God Is One & they reject atheist/polytheist/trinity even they never heard about islam will enter paradise
Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. (Holy Quran 2.62)
Ubadah bin As-Samit (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu ’alayhi wa sallam) said, "He who bears witness that there is no true god except Allah, alone having no partner with Him, that Muhammad is His slave and His Messenger, that `Isa (Jesus) is His slave and Messenger and he (Jesus) is His Word which He communicated to Maryam (Mary) and His spirit which He sent to her, that Jannah is true and Hell is true; Allah will make him enter Jannah accepting whatever deeds he accomplished". [Al-Bukhari and Muslim].
non-muslim people who never heard about islam but they accept Tawhid/God Is One.........will enter paradise.
Like abraham he found Tawhid is the truth & polytheist is wrong, when he still young & before he became prophet.
Al-Bukhaari (44) and Muslim (193) narrated from Anas that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “Whoever says Laa ilaaha ill-Allah (No God except One True God & He is Allah SWT) and has in his heart goodness the weight of a grain of barley will be brought out of Hell, then whoever says Laa ilaaha ill-Allah and has in his heart goodness the weight of a grain of wheat will be brought out of Hell, then whoever says Laa ilaaha ill-Allah and has in his heart goodness the weight of an atom (or a small ant) will be brought out of Hell.” (Sahih Hadith)
Non-muslim people who never heard about islam or received wrong version of islam & they are non-tawhid/non-monotheist people...will enter al-araf (border between hell & heaven). No happiness & No Suffering in al-araf.......very silent place
all children from muslim & non-muslim parent who died before reaching puberty........will enter jannah
The Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) said: “Last night, two people came to me and woke me up and said, ‘Let’s go!’ So I set out with them, … We went on, and came to a well-flourished green garden with all kinds of spring colours, where there was a man who was so tall that I could hardly see his head in the sky. Around the man was the largest number of children I had ever seen. I said to my 2 companions: ‘Subhaan Allaah! Who they?’ … They said: ‘As for the tall man who was in the garden, that was Ibraaheem (عليه السلام). As for the children who were around him, those are all the children who died on a state of fitrah (natural disposition).'” One of the Muslims asked: “O Messenger of Allah, what about the children of the disbelievers (Non-Muslim)?” He said: “And the children of the disbelievers (Non-Muslim)” (Bukhari)
insha Allah SWT
So the Muslims who decapitate Christians and the Christians themselves go to the same Heaven?
So there are different heavens for Christians and Muslims? Do the Christian people who don't reject trinity go to a different Heaven? Would you list the different Heavens and which people go where?
lostwanderingsoul
Well-Known Member
the Bible does not say anyone goes to Heaven
I am just trying to figure out how the one god God/Allah, or the two gods God and Allah working together will solve the logistics.It will be dangerous to send pious Christians and pious Muslims to the same heaven. It will become hell or worse.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
If I believed in God, that would be a hard decision. Both Gods have characteristics I disaprove of. Im happy that God IS life. That is more powerful. No heaven. Our spirits live on. Nothing created. Nothing disapears.
I dont know heaven from a Muslim view to make an intellegent answer. Id say heaven is the relationship I have by living or life/God today. I need nothing more.