Apostle John
“Go ahead, look up Revelation 6”
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Do angels have wings ? Or did we paint it on them ?
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Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
According to Jim Steinman, the angels had guitars before they had wings.
That's my kind of theology...
That's my kind of theology...
Sand Dancer
Crazy Cat Lady
I think angels were a concept back when we thought God lived in heaven, away from us. He needed creatures to deliver messages.
As I have read, angels were generally depicted with wings in Christian art to a) distinguish them artistically from humans and b) express the idea that they could travel between heaven and Earth.
ETA: This is similar, by the way, to the reason people in medieval art are depicted sometimes with halos. It's not because anyone thought they literally had halos, but because it artistically indicates the figure is holy, ie a Saint.
zacariah88
Member
That's Jacobs ladder and secret things is that scripture says they start from earth going to heaven. It doesn't say from heaven to earth was Jacob seen a vision of how God meant the most importance humans are to God and his angels.
Colt
Well-Known Member
From my religious book for what it’s worth angel wings are explained as friction shields used for high velocity interstellar travel.
39:5.12 The erroneous idea that angels possess wings is not wholly due to olden notions that they must have wings to fly through the air. Human beings have sometimes been permitted to observe seraphim that were being prepared for transport service, and the traditions of these experiences have largely determined the Urantian concept of angels. In observing a transport seraphim being made ready to receive a passenger for interplanetary transit, there may be seen what are apparently double sets of wingsextending from the head to the foot of the angel. In reality these wings are energy insulators—friction shields.
39:5.13 When celestial beings are to be enseraphimed for transfer from one world to another, they are brought to the headquarters of the sphere and, after due registry, are inducted into the transit sleep. Meantime, the transport seraphim moves into a horizontal position immediately above the universe energy pole of the planet. While the energy shields are wide open, the sleeping personality is skillfully deposited, by the officiating seraphic assistants, directly on top of the transport angel. Then both the upper and lower pairs of shields are carefully closed and adjusted.
39:5.14 And now, under the influence of the transformers and the transmitters, a strange metamorphosis begins as the seraphim is made ready to swing into the energy currents of the universe circuits. To outward appearance the seraphim grows pointed at both extremities and becomes so enshrouded in a queer light of amber hue that very soon it is impossible to distinguish the enseraphimed personality. When all is in readiness for departure, the chief of transport makes the proper inspection of the carriage of life, carries out the routine tests to ascertain whether or not the angel is properly encircuited, and then announces that the traveler is properly enseraphimed, that the energies are adjusted, that the angel is insulated, and that everything is in readiness for the departing flash. The mechanical controllers, two of them, next take their positions. By this time the transport seraphim has become an almost transparent, vibrating, torpedo-shaped outline of glistening luminosity. Now the transport dispatcher of the realm summons the auxiliary batteries of the living energy transmitters, usually one thousand in number; as he announces the destination of the transport, he reaches out and touches the near point of the seraphic carriage, which shoots forward with lightninglike speed, leaving a trail of celestial luminosity as far as the planetary atmospheric investment extends. In less than ten minutes the marvelous spectacle will be lost even to reinforced seraphic vision.“ UB 1955
zacariah88
Member
They could be for that makes them faster than speed of light or even speed of thought.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
A duet and ensemble with Gabriel and his trumpet, and his happening horn tooting band.
RestlessSoul
Well-Known Member
Sorry, can't resist...
zacariah88
Member
Is that there is Gabriel trumpet and legend around says also of Michael's harp ? What ancient artifact talk about angel tools God give his angels.
scientifically.
The Sound Of Gabriel’s Trumpet: A Warning Of Judgment Day – Low End Theory Club
Archangel Gabriel
Russia’s Transport of Ethiopia’s Mysterious “Ark of Gabriel” from Saudi Arabia to Antarctica
The ark of gabriel is said to be holding his trumpet !
Is Vladimir Putin the Prophesied 'Prince of Rosh'?
Truth be told there are objects that God gave to his angels and are going to be used in the end times if it true or not, perhaps the catholic church has it !, Or perhaps the mossad has it !
We do not know ? There are more stuff.
Gabriel's Trumpet on JSTOR
scientifically.
The Sound Of Gabriel’s Trumpet: A Warning Of Judgment Day – Low End Theory Club
Archangel Gabriel
Russia’s Transport of Ethiopia’s Mysterious “Ark of Gabriel” from Saudi Arabia to Antarctica
The ark of gabriel is said to be holding his trumpet !
Is Vladimir Putin the Prophesied 'Prince of Rosh'?
Truth be told there are objects that God gave to his angels and are going to be used in the end times if it true or not, perhaps the catholic church has it !, Or perhaps the mossad has it !
We do not know ? There are more stuff.
Gabriel's Trumpet on JSTOR
Or in the case of Mormons, they took famous paintings with wings and removed them! Lol
Mormon Church condemned for photoshopping painting of Virgin Mary
Mormon Church condemned for photoshopping painting of Virgin Mary
@zacariah88 I do not think your opening posts make a lot of sense of all of the various verses and information. I think that you are taking tiny scraps and attempting to create the missing parts of a complete painting, but I don't think you can do this. It is fun, but it is not going to replace old fashioned things like baking cookies and bringing home the bacon. It is like pondering about what is at the earth's core.
zacariah88
Member
This is only discussion and we were aiming about showing that angels do have wings and some don't. We are only discussing that is all.
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zacariah88
Member
Another interesting topic is that do not believe all of angels the catholic church pick the right one know that angels have existed before our existence but have names. But not all christian angels come from God but some of which the catholic pick are actually demons who pretend to be good angels like scripture says.
2 Corinthians 11:14
And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Can demons appear in human form like angels? — Phoenix United Reformed Church
Demons can pretend to be angels and thur history have influence people and stories have existed where they help people and trick them. That is why some stories of catholic church of some priests that say they were visited by angels could be demons in disguise always to be careful witht that.
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2 Corinthians 11:14
And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Can demons appear in human form like angels? — Phoenix United Reformed Church
Demons can pretend to be angels and thur history have influence people and stories have existed where they help people and trick them. That is why some stories of catholic church of some priests that say they were visited by angels could be demons in disguise always to be careful witht that.
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Apostle John
“Go ahead, look up Revelation 6”
I was sceptical, even cynical, as a Christian when I heard of others in the present day experiencing angels in human form even though the Bible states this happened in the past.
Last October I experienced both the Angel of the Lord, then a week or so later Satan. Either side of that, other angels in human form. Only in hindsight do I know this and didn’t when it was happening. One thing I have learned about the supernatural a minute, or in this instance with angels in human form, a month before an experience you can be clueless, the next you know they exist.
I personally don't think angels have wings like birds.
Do angels have wings? | The Gospel Truth
Do angels have wings? If we can generalize then we might say that most modern Christians would say "yes" to this question. If we were to ask what evidence there was for such an answer then we might struggle to receive a response. Some might turn to the renaissance painters, some to church...
How Angels Found their Wings | History Today
Wings is the translation the translators chose to use
KJV w/ Strong's Concordance - Ezekiel 10
The King James ( KJV ) Bible. Commentaries, history books, and more are linked to this page
godrules.net
zacariah88
Member
Simply with our eyes we cannot see them in their true appearance but in heaven in the court of heaven they are fiery beings and in the center is God as a fire that is so bright, normals angels cannot withstand him that his fire is powerful only thrones, cherubs, and seraphims can withstand the lord presence but he is too much.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
Quite expected, but people have stopped fearing such threats.
wellwisher
Well-Known Member
The wings of angels brings to mind the wings of birds. Birds flying in the air, above the earth. Wings are a metaphor for intuition. Faith is based on intuition; ideas out of thin air without sensory help. Since faith is based on intuition, angels have wings.
The four classic elements are Earth, Wind, Fire and Water, which symbolize sensory instinct, intuition, emotions and intellect, respectively. These are the four orientating functions of the human brain's operating system. Angels metaphorically appear via our intuition; belief in things not seen. In that sense, such ideas are processed by the unconscious mind and reach the earth; sensory reality, after being mediated by angels; intuition.
In Revelations 12; A divine woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach. 15 Then from his mouth the serpent spewed water like a river, to overtake the woman and sweep her away with the torrent. 16 But the earth helped the woman by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that the dragon had spewed out of his mouth.
The wings of the eagle symbolize divine intuition as she flies to the place prepared for her. The Dragon spews out water; intellect, hoping to drown out her intuitions. But the earth or through sensory reality she is able learn and overcome the noise.
In the book of Daniel, he has a dream of the throne of God, with four beasts;
“The first was like a lion, and it had the wings of an eagle. I watched until its wings were torn off and it was lifted from the ground, so that it stood on two feet like a human being, and the mind of a human was given to it.
There is a parallel between these two sets of eagle wings; intuitions. The Divine Woman is the female side of the Lion of Daniel; unconscious intuition is transformed to conscious intellect; condensation of air into clean water.
The four classic elements are Earth, Wind, Fire and Water, which symbolize sensory instinct, intuition, emotions and intellect, respectively. These are the four orientating functions of the human brain's operating system. Angels metaphorically appear via our intuition; belief in things not seen. In that sense, such ideas are processed by the unconscious mind and reach the earth; sensory reality, after being mediated by angels; intuition.
In Revelations 12; A divine woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach. 15 Then from his mouth the serpent spewed water like a river, to overtake the woman and sweep her away with the torrent. 16 But the earth helped the woman by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that the dragon had spewed out of his mouth.
The wings of the eagle symbolize divine intuition as she flies to the place prepared for her. The Dragon spews out water; intellect, hoping to drown out her intuitions. But the earth or through sensory reality she is able learn and overcome the noise.
In the book of Daniel, he has a dream of the throne of God, with four beasts;
“The first was like a lion, and it had the wings of an eagle. I watched until its wings were torn off and it was lifted from the ground, so that it stood on two feet like a human being, and the mind of a human was given to it.
There is a parallel between these two sets of eagle wings; intuitions. The Divine Woman is the female side of the Lion of Daniel; unconscious intuition is transformed to conscious intellect; condensation of air into clean water.