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Discourse on Who and When The Bible Was Written and Who Was Its Author:

Discussion in 'Christianity DIR' started by iris89, Dec 27, 2004.

  1. iris89

    iris89 Active Member

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    Discourse on Who and When The Bible Was Written and Who Was Its Author:

    The Bible is very important, it is the Word of God (YHWH), and should be respected as same. The Bible is NOT the product of one committee or strongman like other so called religious books. It has over 40 individual writers who wrote under divine inspiration/guidance much as transcribing secretaries today taking transcription and then later typing it out. In other words, The Bible has only one real author, God (YHWH), and many scribes each of whom wrote in his own style over a period of approximately 1,600 years. All of what people call or consider inconsistencies are really not such, but most often just a problem of translation and/or understanding, i.e., lack of understanding of what the original writer writing in his own language and culture meant/said in his original writing. What is remarkable, is the writers over such a period of time all wrote in harmony when even most writers can not even stay on track or subject over a period of a few days and/or weeks at most with the original subject. This fact of harmony over a period so great as to almost stagger the imagination shows that it had one guiding force or author who divinely inspired its writers as humans of their own volition can not keep on track over short periods of time.

    There are many misguided ones that try and discredit the Bible and put forth so called learned foolishness arguments and false-proofs that amount to nothing but tares per Matthew 13:24-30, "Another parable set he before them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man that sowed good seed in his field: 25 but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares also among the wheat, and went away. 26 But when the blade sprang up and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. 27 And the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst thou not sow good seed in thy field? whence then hath it tares? 28 And he said unto them, An enemy hath done this. And the servants say unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 29 But he saith, Nay; lest haply while ye gather up the tares, ye root up the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather up first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them; but gather the wheat into my barn." (American Standard Version; ASV). These same misguided ones put forth bogus arguments that we do NOT EVEN KNOW who is the author and/or who was the scribe who wrote this or that book or some other similar misguided false nonsense.

    However, we well know not only who wrote the books of the Old Testament and the New Testament, but when they were written, and where they were written in most cases. Of course there are the misguided ones who even when presented with the evidence care not to read it, but keep up with their pseudo-knowledge criticism rather than learn, pretending to know that of which they lack knowledge about.

    Now, following are all the books of the Old Testament with their name given first, then who was the main writer of the book [some few books having had very minor parts written by others], approximate time for the completion of the Bible book, and in most cases the location it was written at clearly showing those with their pseudo-knowledge do not know of what they speak. But then they are NOT interested in learning anyhow:

    Genesis - Moses - 1513 B.C.E., written in the Wilderness.

    Exodus - Moses - 1512 B.C.E., written in the Wilderness.

    Leviticus - Moses - 1512 B.C.E., written in the Wilderness.

    Numbers - Moses - 1473 B.C.E., either written in the Wilderness or Plains of Moab.

    Deuteronomy - Moses - 1473 B.C.E., Plains of Moab.

    Joshua - Joshua - about 1450 B.C.E., written in Canaan

    Judges - Samuel - about 1100 B.C.E., written in Israel

    Ruth - Samuel - about 1090 B.C.E., written in Israel

    1 Samuel - Samuel; Gad and Nathan - about 1077 B.C.E., written in Israel

    2 Samuel -Gad and Nathan - about 1040 B.C.E., written in Israel

    1 Kings - Jeremiah - about 580 B.C.E. - written in Judah and Egypt.

    2 Kings - Jeremiah - about 580 B.C.E. - written in Judah and Egypt.

    1 Chronicles - Ezra - about 460 B.C.E. - written probably in Jerusalem

    2 Chronicles - Ezra - about 460 B.C.E. - written probably in Jerusalem

    Ezra - Ezra - about 460 B.C.E. - written in Jerusalem

    Nehemiah - Neihemiah - about 443 B.C.E. - written in Jerusalem

    Esther - Mordecai - about 474 B.C.E. - written in Shushan, Elam

    Job - Moses - about 1473 B.C.E. - written in the wilderness

    Psalms - by David and others - about 460 B.C.E. - place written unknown.

    Proverbs - by Solomon; Agur; and Lemuel - unknown - written in Jerusalem

    Ecclesiastes - Solomon and others - about 1000 B.C.E. - written in Jerusalem

    Song of Solomon - Solomon and others - about 1020 B.C.E. - written in Jerusalem

    Isaiah - Isaiah - about 732 B.C.E. - written in Jerusalem

    Jeremiah - Jeremiah - about 580 B.C.E. - written in Jerusalem

    Lamentations - Jeremiah - about 607 B.C.E. - written near Jerusalem

    Ezekiel - Ezekiel - about 561 B.C.E. - written in Babylon

    Daniel - Daniel - about 536 B.C.E. - written in Babylon

    Hosea - Hosea - after 754 B.C.E. - written in Samaria (District)

    Joel - Joel - about 820 B.C.E. - written in Judah

    Amos - Amos - about 803 B.C.E. - written in Judah

    Obadiah - Obadiah - about 607 B.C.E. - place written unknown.

    Jonah - Jonah - about 844 B.C.E. - place written unknown.

    Micah - Micah - about 716 B.C.E. - written in Judah

    Nahum - Nahum - about 632 B.C.E. - written in Judah.

    Habakkuk - Habakkuk - about 628 B.C.E. - written in Judah.

    Zephaniah - Zephaniah - about 648 B.C.E. - written in Judah.

    Haggai - Haggai - about 520 B.C.E. - written in rebuilt Jerusalem

    Zechariah - Zechariah - about 518 B.C.E. - written in rebuilt Jerusalem

    Malachi - Malachi - about 443 B.C.E. - written in rebuilt Jerusalem
    Now with respect the New Testament the scribes, divinely inspired writers used by God (YHWH) were few in number and all the books of the New Testament were written between approximately 41 A.D. and 98 A.D with the last three being Revelations, 1 John, 2 John, and 3 John, and they were all written by the Apostle John. All of the books of the New Testament were written within the boarders of the Roman Empire. We shall now consider who wrote each book by scribe:

    The Apostle Matthew wrote Matthew.

    Mark wrote Mark.

    The Apostle Luke wrote Luke and Acts.

    The Apostle John wrote John, Revelations, 1 John, 2 John, and 3 John.

    The Apostle Paul wrote Romans, 1 & 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 & 2 Thessalonians, 1 & 2 Timothy, Titus, Philemon, and Hebrews.

    James (the half brother of Jesus (Yeshua)) wrote James.

    The Apostle Peter wrote 1 & 2 Peter.

    Jude (the half brother of Jesus (Yeshua)) wrote Jude.


    The most important thing to remember from this discourse is that Almighty God (YHWH) is the author of the entire Bible, but inspired scribes, divinely inspired individuals, to write down his thoughts in their own words over an extended period of over 1,600 years. That it had one author is quite evident in that it retained harmony, when even most writers can not even stay on track or subject over a period of a few days and/or weeks at most with the original subject, over such a period so great as to almost stagger the imagination. This clearly shows that it was divinely inspired by none other than God (YHWH).

    Your Friend in Christ Iris89
     
  2. iris89

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    Discourse on the Doctrine of Nicolaitans:

    Ever wonder what these two scriptures are referring to?

    Revelations 2:6, "But this thou hast, that thou hatest the works of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate." (American Standard Version)

    Revelations 2:15, "So hast thou also some that hold the teaching of the Nicolaitans in like manner. " (ASV)

    Basically the Doctrine of the Nicolaitans was the concept of an elite few holding power over the many and was a self centered carry over from certain Jewish 'sects' or groups that believed they were better than the masses. They carried this superiority concept over when they became Christians. However, true Christianity is opposite the wisdom of the word with respect to leadership and authority, the key here with respect the false Doctrine of the Nicolaitans was with respect to dominion and sovereignty. Whereas, Jesus (Yeshua) Christ taught that the greatest among you would be the servants of their brethren, these ones taught the Spirit of the World. This was made quite clear at Matthew 235-12,: "But all their works they do to be seen of men: for they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders [of their garments], 6 and love the chief place at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues, 7 and the salutations in the marketplaces, and to be called of men, Rabbi. 8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your teacher, and all ye are brethren. 9 And call no man your father on the earth: for one is your Father, [even] he who is in heaven. 10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your master, [even] the Christ. 11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. 12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be humbled; and whosoever shall humble himself shall be exalted." (ASV).. Their teaching was the reverse of that of Jesus (Yeshua) in that it was authoritarian based in keeping with the wisdom of the world.

    This is the teaching of the false prophets that seek not those attributes of Jesus (Yeshua) and his Father (HYWH) of love; but seek power for themselves. Believers in the false doctrine of the Nicolaitans see power for themselves and the doctrine is actually a lust for power by the wicked and their attempt to take over all authority within a group or church. It is really an attempt by the false prophets to gain false authority that puts them in a position to be served instead of serve and to be recognized as great or special by many. It is actually a sell out of true belief that forms a basis for a hierarchy in many so-called Christian religions that have a distinct clergy and laity class. It is in reality the doctrine of all religions that are cubic in nature; that is those having a hierarchy that loves to lord it over the masses and receives adulation from them. They bask in their own self delusion and continually ask for money in the name of God (YHWH) with which to line their own pockets.

    This fact with respect to the false prophets of the false Doctrine of Nicolaitans is made readily apparent when we look at the root Koine Greek words from which the word Nicolaitans comes, 'nikao' which means to conquer or overcome, and 'laos' which means people and which the word 'laity' comes from. Thus the two words together indicates the destruction or control of the people and referrs to the earliest form of a class distinction of what we call a priestly or clergy order. As we know, later church history divided the people and permitted the leadership over them of a type which our savior Jesus (Yeshua) never intended or wanted, hence a false doctrine. A good flowing English translation of Nicolaitans in English in my opinion would be, "deceptive control prevailing over the masses." This highlights why the Papal hierarchy of priest and clergy that got its start with the Council of Nicea of 325 AD that was presided over by a pagan Emperor Constantine really implemented the false Doctrine of Nicolaitans into its modern from that prevails over most of the so-called Christians to today.

    However, true Christian leadership does not lord it over the people, nor have a hierarchy consisting of a priestly/clergy class and those prevailed over. True Christian leadership is shown by being a servant to the brethren. The Council of Trent stated, , "If anyone shall say that there is not in the Catholic Church a hierarchy established by the divine ordination, consisting of bishops, presbyters and ministers, let him be anathema." So we can see how strongly the false Doctrine of Nicolaitans has overtaken most of the Christian world. This is ungodly spiritual authority that neither Jesus or his apostles ever approved or sanctioned, but was instituted solely by wicked men under control of the god of this system of things per 2 corinthians 4:4, "in whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of the unbelieving, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not dawn [upon them]." (ASV)

    Most of the so-called Protestant and Orthodox church adopted this false Doctrine of Nicolaitans as shown by the hierarchal arrangement they carried away from the Catholic church. However the separation of a priestly or clergy class separated and distinct from the laity is seen in all of Christendom, the only Christians not having such a separation are the monotheistic Bible is the Standard groups. However this ungodly spiritual authority, the false Doctrine of Nicolaitans, has even spilled over into the unchristian groups such as Islam, the Zoroastrians, Devil Worshipers (no surprise as it comes from the Devil), the Hindus, etc. This Doctrine of Nicolaitans is nothing more than the systematic institutionalization of prideful lust for control, manipulation, domination and unbridled power; power which only belongs to the Creator, Almighty God (YHWH). It is false doctrine that seeks to usurp what rightly only belongs to God (YHWH) and should be avoided by all.

    Your Friend in Christ Iris89
     
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