Did The MSM Cost Trump The Election?

[Shadow Wolf]

Trouble is it's everywhere, AFAIK.

Stupidity and lack of consideration and thought for others are tragically rampant throughout society.

 

[esmith]

That confession deserves a frubal.
It shows how and why tribalists are so often hypocrites. While an outsider looks at a policy and asks how it can be useful and just for everybody, the tribalist only sees the momentary benefit for her/his tribe and will condemn the exact same thing when done by an opposing tribe.

Right back at you.

 

[Twilight Hue]

The reason Biden won was that Trump was so despicable to his non-supporters that the massive vote came out to remove him. People who would normally not vote were mobilised to remove the despot.

And look at what we have now. A puppet president in a banana republic.

 

[Altfish]

And look at what we have now. A puppet president in a banana republic.

Which is so much better than Trump. Biden is boring = great, I like boring.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Which is so much better than Trump. Biden is boring = great, I like boring.

So does his puppeteers.

 

[Altfish]

So does his puppeteers.

At least his puppeteers aren't Russian

 

[Twilight Hue]

At least his puppeteers aren't Russian

Got a point there. They tend to come across as being more more Chinese.

 

[Kooky]

Why should I be opposed to anyone owning media empires that support what I do.

What do you do that Rupert Murdoch is allegedly so supportive of?

Do you support anyone that agrees with your policies, or only those that others of your political views support?

I support the policies that I believe serve my interests, but those are so niche that they receive very little support as-is. I certainly do interrogate the motives behind other people's and organization's support for the policies I consider useful, because I generally don't see insincere astroturfers, corporate interests, and fair wheather friends as useful allies to begin with.

 

[esmith]

What do you do that Rupert Murdoch is allegedly so supportive of?
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Appears you misread or misunderstood what I said.

esmith said: ↑
Why should I be opposed to anyone owning media empires that support what I do.

The above statement does not refer to "what I do" but "what I support"

 

[Kooky]

Appears you misread or misunderstood what I said.

The above statement does not refer to "what I do" but "what I support"

So just to get this straight, what you are argueing is exactly how I characterized your earlier position: Your objection is not to media manipulation of democracy, your objection is to media manipulation of democracy in favor of an enemy ideology. If the media was to manipulate democracy in favor of your preferred political ideology, you would actually applaud and support that.

Correct?

 

[esmith]

So just to get this straight, what you are argueing is exactly how I characterized your earlier position: Your objection is not to media manipulation of democracy, your objection is to media manipulation of democracy in favor of an enemy ideology. If the media was to manipulate democracy in favor of your preferred political ideology, you would actually applaud and support that.

Correct?

Duh, you figured that out did you.

 

[Kooky]

Duh, you figured that out did you.

Thanks for the confirmation.