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Did the animals talk?

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
The Torah says:
Numbers 22:28
And the LORD opened the mouth of the donkey, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me three times? And Balaam said unto the donkey, Because thou hast mocked me: if there were a sword in mine hand, I would have slain thee now. And the donkey said unto Balaam, Am I not thy donkey, upon which thou hast ridden from thy youth unto this day? Was I ever in the habit of doing this to you? And he said, No.


God opened the mouth of a donkey and then she spoke? Does it mean, that animals did once talk and God closed their mouths? Does this confirm a part of the "Lesser Genesis" where it is written :
On that day all the wild animals, the cattle, the birds and everything that walks and moves fell silent;
for they had all spoken with one lip and one tongue.


And does it also confirm that the serpent in the garden of Eden was really a talking serpent?

Talking animals, isn't that incredible?
Are you saying that animals don't have a language of their own?
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Looking at the text, I don't think that the donkey was talking. G-d spoke, and the words came out of the Donkey. I imagine it like a megaphone or the burning bush.

I'm not familiar with "Lesser Genesis".

And the serpent in the creation story... for me... even if I imagine that the snake was actually speaking, it doesn't bother me that much.
When God cursed the snake (serpent) it wasn't really the animal he was cursing but the one who used the serpent to influence Eve.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
When God cursed the snake (serpent) it wasn't really the animal he was cursing but the one who used the serpent to influence Eve.

Snake cults were well established in Egypt, the Levant, Mesopoatamia, the Arabian Peninsula and the Indus Valley long before Adam and Eve.

Characterizing Satan as a snake is about dueling religions.
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
But why would God pretend to be a donkey? Because according to this biblical passage, the donkey speaks in "I" form.
It's reminding Bilaam that he can't defy God. He acknowledges this in Numbers 22:38.

Now, take that and apply it to the other example, the serpent in the creation story?
 
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james bond

Well-Known Member
The Torah says:
Numbers 22:28
And the LORD opened the mouth of the donkey, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me three times? And Balaam said unto the donkey, Because thou hast mocked me: if there were a sword in mine hand, I would have slain thee now. And the donkey said unto Balaam, Am I not thy donkey, upon which thou hast ridden from thy youth unto this day? Was I ever in the habit of doing this to you? And he said, No.


God opened the mouth of a donkey and then she spoke? Does it mean, that animals did once talk and God closed their mouths? Does this confirm a part of the "Lesser Genesis" where it is written :
On that day all the wild animals, the cattle, the birds and everything that walks and moves fell silent;
for they had all spoken with one lip and one tongue.


And does it also confirm that the serpent in the garden of Eden was really a talking serpent?

Talking animals, isn't that incredible?

>>Talking animals, isn't that incredible?<<

Haha. Animals can't talk. Physically, they are not able to.

Besides, not only did this donkey talk, it held a conversation with Balaam, so must've suddenly been able to reason. They have limited reasoning abilities. No, the donkey remained a donkey. God was the one speaking to Balaam.

If my dog suddenly started talking to me and was able to hold a conversation, then I would think I was talking with a supernatural being. BTW, the supernatural exists just like the natural. We find that life and the life spirit is supernatural. It cannot be created outside of the cell or something living already; It's called God's breath in the Bible.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Only if you are foolish enough to treat these bible stories literally. :rolleyes:
If some of these stories are not literally true, what reason have we to believe that others are literally true, and how can we know which ones are true and which are symbolic of something the Bible writers were trying to get across?

For example, what reason do we have to believe that the Adam and Eve story is literally true?
What reason do we have to believe that the resurrection story is literally true?
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Snake cults were well established in Egypt, the Levant, Mesopoatamia, the Arabian Peninsula and the Indus Valley long before Adam and Eve.

Characterizing Satan as a snake is about dueling religions.
>>Talking animals, isn't that incredible?<<

Haha. Animals can't talk. Physically, they are not able to.

Besides, not only did this donkey talk, it held a conversation with Balaam, so must've suddenly been able to reason. They have limited reasoning abilities. No, the donkey remained a donkey. God was the one speaking to Balaam.

If my dog suddenly started talking to me and was able to hold a conversation, then I would think I was talking with a supernatural being. BTW, the supernatural exists just like the natural. We find that life and the life spirit is supernatural. It cannot be created outside of the cell or something living already; It's called God's breath in the Bible.
If a dog started talking to me in human language, I'd get really, really scared. I'd probably drop on my knees praying for help. Now the situation is that the Bible is the word of God, and men have been analyzing it and trying to understand it for centuries. It was written many years ago, and culled and put together centuries ago as well. It offers a hope that no other source can.
 
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