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Did Jesus Mention Mohamed in John 14? Only directed to Muslims
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He was never mentioned in anywhere in Bible but still Muslim Scholars are saying Jesus talked about him but Jesus was talking about Holy Spirit not Mohamed
Shakeel
Well-Known Member
The part in the song of solomon fits the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) very well indeed, but it doesn't make sense with the holy spirit.
Song of Solomon was talking about Jesus not Holy Spirit and Jesus was talking about Holy Spirit in John 14 not Mohamed.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
I have not heard about it before, but if jesus knew that Muhammad was coming later, it would not matter to me as a sufi.
Jesus didn't say Mohamed was coming He said Holy Spirit But Muslims said Jesus was talking about Mohamed coming after him not Holy Spirit
Shakeel
Well-Known Member
What reason do you have to think that other than that it "must be so"? It says Muhammadim which is translated as the praised one, not as the altogether lovely.
It would be reasonable to equate Muhammad (PBUH) with the comforter in John 14:26. Through Muhammad a new measure of truth and understanding was made manifest. As the Holy Spirit can be a term for Christ Himself, so too can it refer to Muhammad who is a Prophet of equal status with Christ. However, most Christians are unable to accept this and indeed many Muslims have little interest in the Christian Bible.
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
I know this is for Muslims but your question is very disingenuous considering the fact that you admit that they (Muslim scholars) are lying about the paraclete? If you're dismissing their position already then why ask Muslims if they believe in a supposed lie? This is not even a sincere debate because you've already indicated you've dismissed the idea so why even talk about it?
Spirit of Light
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I can not say what Jesus said
i was not there.
Samael_Khan
Goosebender
You do realise that chapter 5 of song of Solomon is the woman describing how sexually attracted she is to her lover right?
"His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely" - Chapter 5:16
So basically you are saying that the prophet of God is mentioned arbitrarily in a passage in the bible that is related to sexual appeal. Altogether lovely makes perfect sense in the context of the passage because she is describing how physically attractive he is. Translating the word to "praised one" makes no sense contextually.
If you read Acts 1:8 and Acts 2:4 you understand why it can never be Mohamed
Spirit of Light
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Would it be so bad for you if it was Muhammad?
The reason why I ask the question is Muslim scholars are manipulating Muslims I want the Muslims to know for a fact and Also Muslims dont question anything their Imam or Scholars says about Christians
if Jesus was talking about Mohamed that means every Christians should convert to Islam since we follow the practice and preaching of Jesus
j
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Yes that is true
But he wasn't and the scholars knows but they still went ahead lying to Muslims because if they can prove Jesus prophecy about Mohamed then they can prove Mohamed is real not fake prophet
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
For me as a sufi Muhammad is of course real, just as Jesus was a real Prophet
exchemist
Veteran Member
You keep making this claim but where do you get it from? So far, no muslim respondent to your thread has confirmed that this passage is thought to refer to Mohammed.
Can you provide a link, or other reference, to support what you are saying?