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Featured Did Jesus die and rise from the dead?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by whirlingmerc, Apr 21, 2019.

  1. Riders

    Riders Well-Known Member

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    Being not sure the resurrection happened does not make them believers. If they dont know they dont support the idea of the resurrection.
     
  2. Riders

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    Experts dont agree with this for the most part.
     
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    I have studied concerning this artifact and the truth is, plain and simple, it is the real deal. It does not satisfy the hardcore fundamentalist, and by their very nature.... the determined unbeliever.
     
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    But your whole case against it being the best explanation was on me, wasn't it? Does this mean we have an ad hominem fallacy fallacy fallacy? Lol.

    My point is that even if I just wanted comfort in my own beliefs, the case I made could still be accurate. It all hinges on the argumentation itself, not my motives that led up to it.
     
  5. Riders

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    No the bible says his body was as when he was crucified which is why he tells doubting Thomas to stick his hands into his bail scars and where he had been stabbed his wound was open. If his nail scars were really open and his stab wound as he said he would be bleeding ro death.........
     
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    True. :)
     
  7. Riders

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    Yet less then 40 percent of americans go to church. Therefore I don't necesarily believe these statistics.
     
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    They are just one set of statistics, I am sure I could find others.
     
  9. Subduction Zone

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    Your word alone is worth less than that of a naysayer here since when you make a positive claim you put a burden of proof upon yourself. When you make a claim of magic you put a HUGE burden of proof upon yourself. I have looked into this as well and have found no valid reason to believe. Perhaps you have something new, but I seriously doubt it.

    Real scientists have studied it and found it to be a fraud. It is far too young to be the real deal.
     
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    What about the shroud of Turin, have you heard about it, if so then what do you think of it?
     
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    Of course I have. Why do you think it is evidence?
     
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    I have some Arizona ocean front property that I am willing to sell cheap.
     
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    Because it documents some strange facts within it such as no one can fabricate, at least not at the time of it's discovery. Do you believe it's genuine and authentic?
     
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    I would freeze there, anyways how much is it?
     
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    Such as ...
     
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    Shown to be a fraud in the 1980's and it has been replicated. Where do you get your beliefs from?
     
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    An image of a seemingly crucified male who got raised up to life by the power of light
     
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    Pause with the beliefs now we are talking fact - the shroud remain the most studied artifact in the world as we speak.
     
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    After the death of the apostles ( Acts of the Apostles 20:29-30 ) an apostasy set in.
    False clergy developed ' Christendom ' the current so-called Christian churches.
    1st-century Christian writings are the teachings of Christ Jesus.
    Those who follow the 1st-century teachings of Christ as found in Scripture are genuine ' wheat ' Christians.
     
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    I believe as 2 Timothy 3:16-17 informs us that ALL Scripture is inspired by God..........
     
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