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Did God command having statues and images in church?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Bryan X, Oct 8, 2004.

  1. logos

    logos Member

    Oct 11, 2004
    Ok, now for the Catholic response.

    First of all there is no worship of idols or statues, they are merely there to remind us of them. What do I mean? I mean that I am sure all of you have pictures in your wallet or on your dresser of loved ones. I am also sure that you do not worship those pictures, rather, you are reminded of that loved one based on that picture. Since no cameras existed in the days of many saints, we have a lot of paintings and a lot of statues that are reminders to us of them and of their lives.

    Also, what about the command by God of Moses in Numbers to make a bronze serpent for those that were bitten and to be healed by it:
    [font=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]21:8And the LORD said to Moses, "Make a fiery serpent, and set it on a pole; and every one who is bitten, when he sees it, shall live."[/font] [font=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]21:9So Moses made a bronze serpent, and set it on a pole; and if a serpent bit any man, he would look at the bronze serpent and live.[/font]

    Finally, the OT and the NT are complementary books the NT did not "do away" with the law, but rather it was fulfilled in the NT, in Christ. In the NT those things in the OT foreshadowed many of those things recounted in the NT. There is not dichotomy of the two books, rather, they are quite complementary.

    Hope that clears a few things up.
  2. Ronald

    Ronald Well-Known Member

    Jul 9, 2004
    The Torah of God that is "Perfect", "holy, just and good", the Law that Paul says "we uphold," Yeshua says to satan "Live by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God," and "the eternal word," been done away with????

    How do you know of sin? What is sin? Just what was nailed to the cross?

    Sorry! His word is eternal. The Torah makes known to us we are sinners in need of a redeemer. Sin is the transgression of the Torah.
    Col 2:14 Blotting out <1813> (5660) the handwriting <5498> of ordinances <1378> that was against <2596> us <2257>, which <3739> was <2258> (5713) contrary <5227> to us <2254>, and <2532> took <142> (5758) it <846> out of <1537> the way <3319>, nailing <4338> (5660) it <846> to his cross <4716>;
    Handwriting of ordinances that was against us, This is the bill of indightment, the decree of guilt, the death warrant, the record of every idle word, that is what was nailed to the cross. We are from that point NOT GUILTY! Saved, Perfect, having His righteousness!!!!
    I'm sorry you don't get it!