Did Christ really exist ?

[rational experiences]

Science in modern day human life changed its language use and terms of symbolism expressed as scientific teaching.

Owning a quote against biblical scientists as misquoting scientific idealism in use of male and female quotes.

2 conditions are irrationally stated by humans. That God is stone O one body....that it was taught in science symbolically as a male who released its spirit from within its body into a womb theme. Placating that the womb was space and now a Mother who bore witness to the arrival of a newly formed spirit immaculately.

In science that theme states. Hot gases were released from Planet Earth into the cold spatial vacuum, that cooled the gases, changed the gases to placate it immaculate and unknown in science. A thesis to discuss the sciences.

So first a theist quotes O God to be planet Earth, and stone. Then a male theme as a Father, and a God.

Yet God is not a human Father. God was the Father of procreating as a planet with space the new spirit Immaculate formation.

Preaching and coercive constants....is a human brain washing idealised status to gain acceptance of the teaching.

You then only have to review human belief that God was our Father to understand that this ancient commentary is falsified reasoning.

Our human Father a spiritual male life, in science, human owned expressed idealisms, as a very spiritual and natural self historically invented human sciences which then converted natural bio life on Earth. As his owned human male Father confessions as a theist ABOUT God, the body.

Try to convince a human that God is not our Father and review the retaliation. Only a human being bio life sexual self can be a human Father.

Yet if you had to support a reasonable scientific explanation about why life was sacrificed, then you would have to accept God teachings as actual as compared to a theist owning concepts to remove the physical presence of the God mass body and history. Planet concept.

Today the Earth is quantified to be a Mother, based on old scientific teachings also. Claiming that the Earth gave birth to the spirit of the Heavens. Yet it is still using concepts of non actual scientific advice as a realist.

Realism in science was to teach that the subject of the discussion was only owner of a chosen scientific status and not a human imposed status.

Therefore if the spatial womb owned the presence evolution of the gases released from the Earth into space. Then science could never own those gases as an abstraction from the God planet mass into a gas. How relativity of advice was given in science. God just the stone gas history for stone presence. And the heavens an immaculate gained body of gases.

The history also quotes. Stone as a wandering star and the saviour of the heavens put the gas mass back burnt out in previous science causes of releasing extra hot radiation out of the Earth heart/core. And Ice was the reason that water remained stable and cooled as our holy baptism, which begins in a theme, to keep the baby life, which we all own safe and protected.

Water above our head, versus a higher mass of gases burning in Heaven due to Earth core heart mass releasing it due to scientific conversion of energy/mass history in spatial creation.

The teaching quotes space, as a womb is Holy only because it owned the cooling effect as a natural body quote. Science only owns natural as a living human life equal...a human being first. Science is only a choice.

 

[Skywalker]

So what? You are still calling God a liar.

Did your God make the world?

Yes, God made the world. Where did I contradict that teaching?

 

[Skywalker]

No, he was not "born of a virgin". That was not even a prophesy of the Bible. It was an error of the writers. The verse that they referred to did not say that Jesus would be born of a virgin. You should try to understand what it says.

The doctrine of the virgin birth makes sense because it supports Jesus being God. Jesus being both man and God made it possible for him to die for our sins. Also, Jesus being born of a virgin is decently and in order because Jesus is God. Jesus couldn't have both a mother and a father because Jesus was sinless and people who are born of sinful parents are sinners.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The doctrine of the virgin birth makes sense because it supports Jesus being God. Jesus being both man and God made it possible for him to die for our sins. Also, Jesus being born of a virgin is decently and in order because Jesus is God. Jesus couldn't have both a mother and a father because Jesus was sinless and people who are born of sinful parents are sinners.

No, it does not "make sense". The whole story falls apart when analyzed. There was no need for him to die for us. They were your God's rules, if he is all powerful he could have taken away his immoral judgment at any time for any reason. And if you read and understood the verse the myth was based upon it did not even say the mother was a virgin, nor was it a prediction about Jesus.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yes, God made the world. Where did I contradict that teaching?

You didn't, but if God made the world saying that Genesis is literally true is calling God a liar. Where did I say that you contradicted that teaching?

If one studies the world it tells us a story. And that story contradicts the Genesis myth. The only way the Genesis myths can be true is if God planted endless false information, that is a form of lying. You are calling God a liar by insisting that Genesis is literally true.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

No, it does not "make sense". The whole story falls apart when analyzed.

When analyzed by whom?

Let me ask you a question: Why did the High Priest have to die in order to free killers from the cities of refuge?

 

[Subduction Zone]

When analyzed by whom?

Let me ask you a question: Why did the High Priest have to die in order to free killers from the cities of refuge?

He didn't have to die. The question is poorly formed.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

When analyzed by whom?

Let me ask you a question: Why did the High Priest have to die in order to free killers from the cities of refuge?

He didn't have to die. The question is poorly formed.

Numbers 35:28

כִּ֣י בְעִ֤יר מִקְלָטוֹ֙ יֵשֵׁ֔ב עַד־מ֖וֹת הַכֹּהֵ֣ן הַגָּדֹ֑ל וְאַחֲרֵ֥י מוֹת֙ הַכֹּהֵ֣ן הַגָּדֹ֔ל יָשׁוּב֙ הָרֹצֵ֔חַ אֶל־אֶ֖רֶץ אֲחֻזָּתֽוֹ׃

For he must remain inside his city of refuge until the death of the high priest; after the death of the high priest, the manslayer may return to his land holding.
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[Subduction Zone]

Numbers 35:28

כִּ֣י בְעִ֤יר מִקְלָטוֹ֙ יֵשֵׁ֔ב עַד־מ֖וֹת הַכֹּהֵ֣ן הַגָּדֹ֑ל וְאַחֲרֵ֥י מוֹת֙ הַכֹּהֵ֣ן הַגָּדֹ֔ל יָשׁוּב֙ הָרֹצֵ֔חַ אֶל־אֶ֖רֶץ אֲחֻזָּתֽוֹ׃

For he must remain inside his city of refuge until the death of the high priest; after the death of the high priest, the manslayer may return to his land holding.
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Non sequitur.

You are conflating claims with evidence.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

And neither have Greek or Latin. A slip of the mind as we write "J" so often were it fits our pronunciation; Ivlivs, Iesos, Ivdea. The only time we get it right is in the cross titulus INRI.

I simply found it odd, since it was apparent you were fishing for some sort of "authentic" spelling.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Non sequitur.

You are conflating claims with evidence.

I am asking you a question. Your response has been foolishly arrogant, laughably ignorant, and transparently dishonest. Enjoy your little game ...

 

[Subduction Zone]

I am asking you a question. Your response has been foolishly arrogant, laughably ignorant, and transparently dishonest. Enjoy your little game ...

Not so. You asked poorly formed questions at best that demonstrate an inability to reason. Don't get mad because you failed.

 

[Skywalker]

No, it does not "make sense". The whole story falls apart when analyzed. There was no need for him to die for us. They were your God's rules, if he is all powerful he could have taken away his immoral judgment at any time for any reason. And if you read and understood the verse the myth was based upon it did not even say the mother was a virgin, nor was it a prediction about Jesus.

God couldn't just forgive us for the same reason that a judge can't just forgive a murderer or a rapist. If God would just forgive us it would be an insult to bid holiness and justice. God is against sin because what is sinful isn't harms us a s separates us from God. Saying sin being wrong is God's rules is like saying not following the laws being wrong is a judge's rules. A judge can't just take away the laws that exist. Who do you think that the verse was a prediction about? The verse said that the mother was a young maiden, who was likely to be a virgin in the conservative culture at that time.

 

[Subduction Zone]

God couldn't just forgive us for the same reason that a judge can't just forgive a murderer or a rapist. If God would just forgive us it would be an insult to bid holiness and justice. God is against sin because what is sinful isn't harms us a s separates us from God. Saying sin being wrong is God's rules is like saying not following the laws being wrong is a judge's rules. A judge can't just take away the laws that exist. Who do you think that the verse was a prediction about? The verse said that the mother was a young maiden, who was likely to be a virgin in the conservative culture at that time.

You forgot. The supposed crimes were often nonexistent and the punishment was excessive. In that case a judge can intervene.

This argument fails. Find another.

 

[Skywalker]

You didn't, but if God made the world saying that Genesis is literally true is calling God a liar. Where did I say that you contradicted that teaching?

If one studies the world it tells us a story. And that story contradicts the Genesis myth. The only way the Genesis myths can be true is if God planted endless false information, that is a form of lying. You are calling God a liar by insisting that Genesis is literally true.

How does Genesis and the story you see
when you study the world contradict each other?

 

[Subduction Zone]

How does Genesis and the story you see
when you study the world contradict each other?

The world only supports that life as we see it was the result of evolution. There was no magic worldwide flood. The scientific evidence for this is endless and there is no evidence for the myths of the Bible. You are claiming that God planted false evidence. That would make him a liar.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Yes, but who is the high priest now for all Israel, I mean all Jews?

A high priest is not necessary if there is no temple. But you already know that, don't you. When the temple is rebuilt, there will be a high priest, no problem.

 

[Skywalker]

You forgot. The supposed crimes were often nonexistent and the punishment was excessive. In that case a judge can intervene.

This argument fails. Find another.

What sins are non existent? God punishes people eternally for finite sins because the amount of time a crime takes has nothing to do with the degree of punishment. A judge can't intervene if someone committed rape or murder.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

God couldn't just forgive us for the same reason that a judge can't just forgive a murderer or a rapist.

The ignorance of how the justice system works is profound. Criminals get off scot free all the time, especially rapists because patriarchal judges don’t seem to believe that rape is a bad thing..

 

[Skywalker]

The world only supports that life as we see it was the result of evolution. There was no magic worldwide flood. The scientific evidence for this is endless and there is no evidence for the myths of the Bible. You are claiming that God planted false evidence. That would make him a liar.

Evolution is not proven or science. Macroevolution has never been recorded.