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Dick's and Hypocrites

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Wirey, Feb 28, 2018.

  1. 9-10ths_Penguin

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    In this context, is age a protected class?

    My admittedly quick Googling suggests that at least at the federal level, age discrimination by private businesses is only illegal when it comes to employment and only with regard to people over 40. Does anyone understand the law differently or know of a state law that says something else?

    Offhand, I'd assume that if it's legal to refuse to rent a car to someone under 25, it would be legal to refuse to sell a gun to someone under 21.
     
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    Hmm, I would agree there could be legal repercussions, so it will be interesting to see how this unfolds.
     
  3. 9-10ths_Penguin

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    There are different issues at play in the two cases. Plenty of consistent positions could say "yes" to the one case and "no" to the other.
     
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    What law do you think Dick's is breaking?
     
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    Same at my clinic. For liability reasons we don't preform chiro, types of PT or massage on people below a certain age even if there's no legal reason not to. Similarly with geriatric patients, many therapists without specialty training won't preform service on them.
     
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    In Michiganistan, it's Elliott-Larsen.
     
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    So, do you think a carnival ride operator unfairly discriminates against kids when they don't permit anyone to ride who's under a minimum height?

    Thing is, under federal anti-discrimination laws, businesses can refuse service to any person for any reason, unless the business is discriminating against a protected class." People under the age of 21 are not a protected class.

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    Federal law states that a person of 18 years of age can purchase a rifle, shotgun and ammunition from a retail store.

    That is the law.

    If Dick's does not want to sell a firearm to an 18 year old, then they should not sell firearms at all.
     
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    Federal law also claims an 18 year old has the right to purchase a rifle, shotgun and ammunition from a retail store.

    So no more gun sales for Dicks.
     
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    Alright, that's all well and good. What makes it morally reprehensible, though?

    Does something being legal make it moral? There was a time when refusing to sell things to people based on age was legal, so was it moral then, but not moral now?
     
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    Age discrimination.
     
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    I doubt it, I remember as a 21 year old there were a bunch of Clubs that only allowed people over 23 and as a bowler there were age specific bowling leagues.
     
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    You live in Canada right? Your legals rights are a bit different from mine. A Japanese would also answer this a bit differently.

    I get the fact that you're pointing to the laws here. That makes sense up to a rational point. Back in the days, someone would have argued their legal right to own slaves because technically they were right.

    I'm just making the point that you are technically right but is selling a cake actually the same as selling a gun? Why even have any age restrictions on guns at all in the first place if you want to be completely technical with this comparing it to a cake? Let's allow minors to purchase guns too while were at it. Of course, there are rational distinctions between the two.
     
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    Those that are over the age of 21 will still buy guns from them if the price is right, those under 21 looking to buy a gun will just spend their money elsewhere. I'd say it's mostly a PR decision but it would be interesting to see how much gun sales make up their overall sales. it may not have much of an impact overall since they carry a large variety of non-gun related products.
     
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    Exactly. Instead of being moral hypocrites they could just get out of the gun business entirely to validate their position if they really wanted to.

    More on par, I think Dicks made the decision based on legal advice.
     
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    Maybe Dick's should be forced to sell cigarettes.
     
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    I can understand Dick's decision. With all the attorneys gearing up to sue gun sellers, Dick's has some very deep pockets. Sometimes it's just better to not have the headaches that go with the sales. Just like the idea of being able to sue a bartender if you get a DUI.

    Special Interests are the squeakiest wheels there are.
     
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    It just came across the news that Wal-Mart is going to follow Dicks with a 21 YO requirement, as well, nationwide.
     
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    A club doesn't sound like a "public accommodation" under Michiganistanian law.
    But laws will vary with the state.
     
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