Deutche Bank we are having economy collapse

[Estro Felino]

I know too littel about them to comment on that. But we have right-wing governments in the east that we have to deal with right now. They will have to step back in line or get expelled. The eurokrats don't like the work that comes with the later but eventually there will be no other alternative as getting reigned back in isn't in the playbook of autokrats.

Who? Hungary? Poland? Romania?

 

[Heyo]

Who? Hungary? Poland? Romania?

All of them. They all face trials before the European Court or at least critique and threats of sanctions. While the EU isn't very democratic it demands democracy from its member states (and respect for the European human rights declaration). The bureaucracy may drag it's feet in enforcing that but eventually they have to.

 

[Estro Felino]

All of them. They all face trials before the European Court or at least critique and threats of sanctions. While the EU isn't very democratic it demands democracy from its member states (and respect for the European human rights declaration). The bureaucracy may drag it's feet in enforcing that but eventually they have to.

Well...in Italy, Souverainists say Germany wants to recreate the Holy Roman Empire ( and the treaty of Aachen, which was its capital is the proof of this ).
But what shocks me is that the power will be held by banking elites which will use the Banking Seigniorage of the ECB to subdue all countries.

That is the reason why Merkel fiercely opposes Brexit ...
To begin with, Brexit will be implemented only when the Bank of England divests the ECB stakes.

As for Hungary and the Slavic Nations ..they are heroic in our eyes and their Nationalism can save this Europe from massive immigration, from Soros, from the banking dictatorship of certain élites.

To conclude....the Von der Leyen Commission is a great step forward...it will be the premise of the great change Europe is going to face.

 

[Augustus]

Goldman Sachs helped the Greek to appear worthy for the €. Everyone in the EU knew it was faked but they let the Greeks in non-the-less. And when it blew up the people of Greece had to pay (that is, the little people, the rich got off scot free).
And because of the involvement of Goldman Sachs and the US based rating agencies who kicked off the crisis there are conspiracy theories that say it was all a plot by the US to discredit the €.
Imagine the world decides to switch the world reserve currency from the $ to the € ...

Not sure where the Yanks are supposed to have hoodwinked anybody. The EU took Greece into the Euro for purely ideological reasons, GS just gave them a paper shield so the EU could pretend they weren't shamelessly ignoring their own rules because it was ideologically convenient to do so. Then the entirely predictable happened: give someone access to massive amounts of credit at vastly reduced rates than they used to pay and stand as guarantor for their debts, there's a fair chance they are going to borrow more than is prudent.

The Yanks didn't need to sabotage the Euro cos it was doomed from the get go.

 

[Estro Felino]

Wow...have you read this article, @Heyo ?
Our beloved Matthew Salvini is called a racist...and his plan to destroy the Euro through the MiniBots is called a Maxi Danger

Mini-Bots und Maxi-Gefahr • LunaPark21

 

[sooda]

It's always been an illusion right? Fiat money. It will continue as long as people believe. It will fail when they stop believing.

Borrow against a value decreed by the government. Who then is the government into debt with? Lets pretend there is a debt to motivate people to pay it off.

Weird, weird, this thinking that something exists by decree. I'm not an economist but weird.

Shale oil is failing and it was debt fueled.

 

[Heyo]

Wow...have you read this article, @Heyo ?
Our beloved Matthew Salvini is called a racist...and his plan to destroy the Euro through the MiniBots is called a Maxi Danger

Mini-Bots und Maxi-Gefahr • LunaPark21

Yeah, the money monopolists don't like it when someone is fishing in their pond. But the danger is not for the €. The danger is that the MiniBots blow up, Italy goes bankrupt and gets the Greek treatment. And the Italiens may not be as submissive. And with Italy leaving a domino effect may start with Portugal, Spain and Greece in tow.

 

[Estro Felino]

Yeah, the money monopolists don't like it when someone is fishing in their pond. But the danger is not for the €. The danger is that the MiniBots blow up, Italy goes bankrupt and gets the Greek treatment. And the Italiens may not be as submissive. And with Italy leaving a domino effect may start with Portugal, Spain and Greece in tow.

I assure you we are very different than Greece.
We have hidden resources we don't talk about.

 

[Estro Felino]

Do you know whom I voted for, Heyo last May?
For Francesca Donato, president of Eurexit..I guess the name says it all.