Tantrums for adults?
Help me to understand the difference.
Help me to understand the difference.
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Demonstrations
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Daemon Sophic
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Or reasonable objections by a populus to the conditions in which they find themselves. A mass showing of desire for legal and cultural change. Eh?
dybmh
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Shooting of Kendra James - Wikipedia
The demonstrations here (Portland, OR) are because of Kendra James and the others who have been killed by excessive use of force by law enforcement officers and agents.
eta: Their purpose are to demonstrate this excessive use of force by inciting reactions from police in response to peaceful protests.
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Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
The Stonewall Riots happened because we were opressed and repressed. Queers were arrested for being queer, and it started when some queens were arrested and they had enough and started rioting. That was basically the beginning of LGBT rights.
Orbit
I'm a planet
Demonstrations gave women the vote, and gave us all the weekend, the 8 hour work day, and overtime. Demonstrations ended the war in Viet Nam and segregation.
Demonstrations are not "tantrums".
Altfish
Veteran Member
When you have wealth you can buy a politician to see your point of view.
When you do not have wealth you need to gather together to try to influence your politicians. They are called demonstrations
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
Please tell me you're just being provocative...
Yet another famous example:
Jarrow March - Wikipedia
exchemist
Veteran Member
A tantrum is an uncontrolled outburst of anger, typically in the form of screaming and undirected violence, generally associated with small children who have yet to learn to control their emotions.
A political demonstration is a mass gathering to show (i.e. to demonstrate) a large level support for a political proposition.Typically this is part of a campaign to persuade government or legislators to act.
There is thus nothing in common between the two at all.
Now, if a demonstration turns into a riot, then you have something close to a mass tantrum on your hands.
However, to use the term "tantrum" for a riot is to belittle it inappropriately, as riots are dangerous and destructive social phenomena that need expert management and resources to quell them. In this respect they are like a fire: the wrong methods can make them worse, or cause new outbreaks to emerge in other places.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
kinda hard to find a hard line
a crowd of people chanting and waving signs
a crowd of people looting and setting fires
a crowd of people looking for bloody vengeance
the word .....protest....covers a lot of territory
maybe we should take rhetoric where rhetoric counts?
send letters of protest to law makers
call the news reporter and make a statement
crowds are easy to see
and chanting can be heard
but it's being anonymous.....hiding in a crowd
as if repeated public prayer
and the prayer will be answered?
exchemist
Veteran Member
But he never asked about "protest". He asked about "demonstrations".
Thief
Rogue Theologian
even a large notation
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
What happens in a demonstration is a function of the degree of anger and the response of the authorities.
Peterloo Massacre - Wikipedia
Peterloo Massacre - Wikipedia
Tantrums involve a lot of foot stomping, demonstrations change the world
It takes some maturity to understand.
But aren't the demonstrations a vehicle for the protest?
'Boston Tea Party' comes to mind.
In a sense. My intent was to provoke thought and bring about intellectual conversation about the usefulness of demonstrations, and what sorts of demonstrations might be productive and what sorts would be counterproductive.
Some have already touched on riots, peaceful protest, and not so peaceful ones.
And then there are those that just stop by to leave snarky and glaringly ironic comments about maturity.
The problem with the comparison isn't that it doesn't have some merit, it's that the subtext folks often associate with the terms is very, very different.
While there's nothing about a tantrum that explicitly implies it should not be taken seriously, we associate tantrums with children. And while there is also nothing about children that explicitly implies they shouldn't be taken seriously, we tend to believe that too. Thus, we think of tantrums as protests that do not deserve to be taken seriously.
That is doing a very grave disservice to protests and demonstrations, who explicitly want to (and need to) be taken seriously.
While there's nothing about a tantrum that explicitly implies it should not be taken seriously, we associate tantrums with children. And while there is also nothing about children that explicitly implies they shouldn't be taken seriously, we tend to believe that too. Thus, we think of tantrums as protests that do not deserve to be taken seriously.
That is doing a very grave disservice to protests and demonstrations, who explicitly want to (and need to) be taken seriously.