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Democrats talk impeachment proceedings

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Riders, Apr 20, 2019.

  1. Riders

    Riders Well-Known Member

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    They are talking now about starting impeachment proceedings . I doubt it will pass Republicans but if they do it might mess up Democrats if they have a failed impeachment proceeding but it could ruin Trumps chances at getting reelected also.

    They are talking starting proceedings. Looks like our LDS Republican guy cant remember his name , hes member of the LDS church? He supports impeachment had a lot to say about Trump today. Maybe Im wrong maybe Republicans will vote, but I don't think it'll go through. But they maybe starting proceedings thats what they are saying..........Elizabeth Warren wants to start them.
     
  2. shmogie

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    Impeachment must start in the House. If they pass it in the House, a trial for removal from off ice takes place in the senate. It will never go anywhere, the idiot dems. will just make themselves look stupider than they look now, which is amazingly stupid.
     
  3. fantome profane

    fantome profane Have you read the Mueller Report?
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    What precedent does this set for the future if there are no impeachment proceedings? What will that mean for a future President?
     
  4. esmith

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    It will mean that unless impeachable acts are taken that it will make no difference what the "only for viewership/readership" accusations are put forward by the media, what unfounded accusations are presented by the opposing party that that only the true facts will have any bearing on an election.
     
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  5. wandering peacefully

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    They might as well because they sure are not doing anything else!! Even one of the commissioners in the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission wrote a decent letter in opostion of the commission fast tracking LNG sites so US can start shipping out all of the gas to other countries for profit with ZERO study and complete denile of the effects of carbons to climate change! All based on their claim of not having enough information on the topic.

    This is sort of the stuff people would worry about and take action instead of worshipping gods...anyway. Wwe and our ecology are being steamrolled because people are not paying attention and politicians play their useless games for points so they can continue doing nothing.

    I'm ranting. Sorry about that. I think impeaching Orange One for the dems is a terrible waste time and energy. I don't like either party anymore .

    FERC Green-Lights Two Gulf Coast LNG Export Terminals
     
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  6. fantome profane

    fantome profane Have you read the Mueller Report?
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    Have you read the Mueller report? Do you consider it false?
     
  7. esmith

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    I find no evidence of malfeasance in the report, therefore it is accurate.
     
  8. fantome profane

    fantome profane Have you read the Mueller Report?
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    Did you read it?
     
  9. esmith

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    Nope got better things to do with my time. . Reading an excellent non-fiction book about the Korean War.
     
  10. fantome profane

    fantome profane Have you read the Mueller Report?
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    Ok
     
  11. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...

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    Then it's kind of amazing how you could "find no evidence" in something that you haven't even read.

    Oh, wait, of course...all you have to do is not listen to the guilty plea to find somebody innocent! :rolleyes:
     
  12. Father Heathen

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    You support a president who believes windmills cause cancer, sooo....
     
  13. Father Heathen

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    By "finding no evidence" he means that he hasn't been spoonfed anything by Fox News to suggest that there is any. Perhaps they should switch from red "MAGA" hats to red "MAGA" bibs.
     
  14. shmogie

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    No, impeachment will likely never happen, ever. The founders assumed that those in congress would act like reasonable people regarding this matter.

    They never envisioned party loyalty to be so strong that that the high bar they set for removal could never be achieved.

    It is a wasted exercise and the result is inevitable.

    The people are sick to death of this democrat petulance trying to undo an election they lost.

    While they diddle around serious issues need to be addressed, and aren´t, like the crisis at the border they say was manufactured that they now say is real.
     
  15. Father Heathen

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    I never said anything about impeachment and in fact think it's an unfeasible waste of time. I just though it was ironic how you mentioned how idiotic they look. I actually agree, but Trump supporters should remember ""Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?" Matthew 7:3
     
  16. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Libertarian Capitalist Atheist Bokononist
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    I hope (slightly) that Dems do try to impeach him.
    It would be a fascinating thing to watch as they
    campaign for the 2020 election.
     
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    I There are rules of evidence in a criminal investigation that must be applied to admissability.

    A crime has specific elements defined that must exist before it is a crime.

    Evidence meeting the level of admissability must lead to the establishment of all the elements for a crime to exist.

    Hypothetically, say there was a secretary of state whose activity was established by admissable evidence to have met all the elements of the crime of gross negligence.

    But she, isn´t prosecuted because an element that is not in the statute, intent, is applied so she can go free.

    See how it works kids ?

    In Trumps case, the politics ensure he will never be removed from office, the evidence of anything illegal is very weak and no crimes at any point can be established for prosecution.
    I find it interesting that those who see obstruction in every paragraph are saying that an investigation into collusion can be obstructed by words, not acts, when there was no collusion, weird.

    The angel of doom for trump, mueller didn´t deliver what the dems went to bed every night praying for.

    They just need to learn to live with it.

    They are going to have to beat Trump at the polls to remove him, they cannot huff, and puff, and blow him out the door of the white house.
     
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    Yes, I have always loved the circus
     
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    here is enough idiocy to go around
     
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    It will mean that unless a president throws grenades into the capitol, he/she will not be removed from office.
     
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