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Democrats say the damnedest things.....

esmith

esmith

Veteran Member
metis said:
Pumping oil at a faster rate than recent years. See chart here and notice the sharp upward climb at the end: U.S. Field Production of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels per Day)

BTW, even to pump on private lands one still has to have inspections and a license to do so.
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Sorry that doesn't fly. Production is down on federal land through 2013 is down.
The Congressional Research Service (CRS) says that the share of oil and gas production coming from federal lands have plummeted from 2009 to 2013. Oil production on federal lands fell by 11 percent over this time period and natural gas production fell by 28 percent.

Federal onshore oil production fell for the third year in a row, while offshore oil production increased slightly — just enough to increase total oil production by 15,300 barrels per day in 2013 above 2012 levels.
 
esmith

esmith

Veteran Member
metis said:
Pumping oil at a faster rate than recent years. See chart here and notice the sharp upward climb at the end: U.S. Field Production of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels per Day)

BTW, even to pump on private lands one still has to have inspections and a license to do so.
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Sorry your data is for total production.
From: Oil and gas on federal lands is in free fall under Obama | The Daily Caller
Oil and gas production has stalled on federal lands for the third year in a row under the Obama administration, despite booming energy production on private and state lands, according to a new government report.

The Congressional Research Service (CRS) says that the share of oil and gas production coming from federal lands have plummeted from 2009 to 2013. Oil production on federal lands fell by 11 percent over this time period and natural gas production fell by 28 percent.

Federal onshore oil production fell for the third year in a row, while offshore oil production increased slightly — just enough to increase total oil production by 15,300 barrels per day in 2013 above 2012 levels.

But total federal oil production is still 316,800 barrels per day below 2010 levels of 1,975,100 barrels per day. The energy industry and federal lawmakers have long criticized the Obama administration for saddling energy producers with lengthy permitting times and environmental review processes.

“The CRS report clearly shows that where the federal government has the most control, on federal lands, it is suppressing development of the energy that all Americans own while preventing job creation and economic prosperity,” said Tim Wigley, president of pro-drilling Western Energy Alliance.
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And just were do you get the idea that it requires a federal permit to drill on private land or inspection by federal authorities?
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
If oil production is up in areas where Obama has no influence, & Democrats give him credit for it? I know some folk in the booming Marcellus oil biz, & they consider Obama a major hinderance.
 
tytlyf

tytlyf

Not Religious
esmith said:
It appears that Obama is taking credit for low gasoline and natural gas prices by touting the increased production of the same. However, I guess Obama doesn't realize that the increased production took place on private lands.
from: Obama Takes Credit For Low Gas Prices In State Of The Union | The Daily Caller
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Federal lands (onshore) have been increasing production each year, offshore federal lands have been decreasing since around 2010 when the BP oil disaster happened.

In addition hasn't Obama said he will veto the Keystone pipeline which reduce the amount of crude oil delivered to the refineries and the pipeline will deliver the oil with less chance of a danger to the environment. than the method now being used.
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The keystone is a disaster. The oil won't be used in America. The keystone will kill trucking and train jobs used to ship oil.

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metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
esmith said:
Sorry your data is for total production.
From: Oil and gas on federal lands is in free fall under Obama | The Daily Caller


And just were do you get the idea that it requires a federal permit to drill on private land or inspection by federal authorities?
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They are needed because of potential environmental danger, plus the resource below the surface is monitored and taxed at various levels of government.

Also, a reminder about the controversy when the administration open up the issuing of off-shore permits on the Atlantic side of some of the southeastern states, whereas Jeb Bush was reluctant because of the danger of oil spills that could affect the beaches in Florida.

The simple fact that you are neglecting is that there's more drilling going on here, and that this has been at least somewhat of a result of this administration's decisions. But if one only watches Fox "News"... ;)
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
esmith said:
And just were do you get the idea that it requires a federal permit to drill on private land or inspection by federal authorities?
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As a follow-up to my last post:

Before you can begin drilling for hydrocarbons, there are a couple of issues that need to be resolved. For example, where will the drill rig be placed? On whose land? Do you have permission? Do you own the mineral rights to remove the hydrocarbons once they are discovered? Have you obtained the proper permits from a myriad of governmental agencies? How do you know that oil and gas are present beneath the drill rig? There are a number of considerations before the drill rig begins operations. These activities generally fall into the broad categories of mapping, leasing, and permitting... -- Before Drilling Begins
 
esmith

esmith

Veteran Member
metis said:

As a follow-up to my last post:

Before you can begin drilling for hydrocarbons, there are a couple of issues that need to be resolved. For example, where will the drill rig be placed? On whose land? Do you have permission? Do you own the mineral rights to remove the hydrocarbons once they are discovered? Have you obtained the proper permits from a myriad of governmental agencies? How do you know that oil and gas are present beneath the drill rig? There are a number of considerations before the drill rig begins operations. These activities generally fall into the broad categories of mapping, leasing, and permitting... -- Before Drilling Begins
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Sorry metis, the above is not within the federal jurisdiction When It Is On Private Land.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
esmith said:
Sorry metis, the above is not within the federal jurisdiction When It Is On Private Land.
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Simply not true:

Additionally, the report noted that in 2011 it took on average 307 days to get a drilling permit on federal lands. That was a 41 percent increase compared with 2006, it said.

“A more efficient permitting process may be an added incentive for the industry to invest in developing federal resources, which may allow for some oil and gas to come onstream sooner, but in general, the regulatory framework for developing resources on federal lands will likely remain more involved and time-consuming than that on private land,” the report said. -- Report: US oil-and-gas production up despite drop on federal lands | TheHill [note underlined part]

Permits are still needed on private land, which make sense both in terms of environmental concerns plus taxing.
 
esmith

esmith

Veteran Member
metis said:
Simply not true:

Additionally, the report noted that in 2011 it took on average 307 days to get a drilling permit on federal lands. That was a 41 percent increase compared with 2006, it said.

“A more efficient permitting process may be an added incentive for the industry to invest in developing federal resources, which may allow for some oil and gas to come onstream sooner, but in general, the regulatory framework for developing resources on federal lands will likely remain more involved and time-consuming than that on private land,” the report said. -- Report: US oil-and-gas production up despite drop on federal lands | TheHill [note underlined part]

Permits are still needed on private land, which make sense both in terms of environmental concerns plus taxing.
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Your link just supported my statement that federal permits are not needed on private land.

“Where the states have been in charge, we have seen energy development boom in a safe and responsible way, but under federal control we have seen a sharp decline in production. A web of red tape and a backlog of delayed permits are blocking important energy production opportunities on federal lands,” Rep. Ed Whitfield (R-Ky.), who chairs the House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Energy and Power, said in a Tuesday statement.
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In addition look what Obama wants now.
Obama wants Alaska refuge off-limits for oil drilling - MarketWatch
 
tytlyf

tytlyf

Not Religious
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
tytlyf said:
Maybe if he stayed in college he would believe in evolution. The world would laugh at him as a president. And no, the world doesn't laugh at Obama (i know your media tells you that.)
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Perhaps if Obama had started a small business instead of becoming a lawyer, he might not believe in crony capitalism. Alternative reality predictions are fun, eh?
 
tytlyf

tytlyf

Not Religious
Revoltingest said:
Perhaps if Obama had started a small business instead of becoming a lawyer, he might not believe in crony capitalism. Alternative reality predictions are fun, eh?
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As compared to Walker who never did anything as far as a career? Let alone try to get an education?
 
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