Democrats get senate in 2020 what happens?

[Shadow Wolf]

The Senate can not acquit him,

They can, and they have acquitted in the past. Most recently when Clinton was impeached/accused in the House but acquitted by the Senate.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

No, you don't know what impeachment means.
Tom

Unfortunately tons of people dont. And its really sad. Plenty of us have been through one presidential impeachment, but damn if anyone can keep the facts straight on it.

 

[Polymath257]

They can already and likely will impeach him. That happens exclusively, entirely, soley, and strictly only in the House. However, the accusations will pass to the Rep controlled Senate, where it's likely Trump will be acquitted. After that, I assume Trump will be protected from retrial due to the prohibitions on double jeopardy.

Only retrial on the same charge.

Plus, since impeachment *isn't* a criminal case, it isn't clear double jeopardy applies.

 

[Salvador]

So I have seen that some are saying now Democrats have a good chance of taking over Senate and House for 2020. If so and Trump is int he office, will Democrats be able to impeach him or throw him out??????

I'm going to wager a modest sum of money that Trump gets re-elected and the Republicans will keep control of the Senate in 2020. If I were to loose both these bets, I'd seriously consider moving to Uruguay where I'd be taxed way less than how I'd be taxed in the democratic socialist republic of North America.

Election Betting Odds

Good news for my chances of staying here in America...election betting odds now are at ca. 65 percent the Republicans keep control of the Senate.

 

[Milton Platt]

The fact that some media outlets have been focused on public opinion poles and speculating democrats chances in the upcoming elections says much about this entire process. It doesn't seem that to some it has been as important for the facts and truth to be heard and verified as much as how it has imcreased or decreased political parties chances, what a depressing and deplorable state of affairs.

Yes, a lot of truth to that. I think the parties themselves are to blame for much of the polarization and lack of focus on actual issues.

 

[columbus]

Good news for my chances of staying here in America...election betting odds now are at ca. 65 percent the Republicans keep control of the Senate.

I remember the polls a year out from the 2016 elections.
<snicker>
Tom

 

[Milton Platt]

So I have seen that some are saying now Democrats have a good chance of taking over Senate and House for 2020. If so and Trump is int he office, will Democrats be able to impeach him or throw him out??????

I agree with most of the posters here that Democratic control of the senate in 2020 is extremely unlikely. They will gain some seats, but not control. If Trump remains in office, it will precipitate the continued downward spiral of the Republican party as they try to continually try to cover his sh*t in the cat box.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Only retrial on the same charge.

Plus, since impeachment *isn't* a criminal case, it isn't clear double jeopardy applies.

Impeachment is the accusation. But once a judgement off not guilty/acquital, that was a trial and I would assume double jeopardy applies.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Good news for my chances of staying here in America...

People who talk about leaving should, for once, back up their words. So many people talk it, but hardly anyone ever actually does.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I remember this story from 4 years ago.
Tom

I don't know about four years ago. I do know that two years ago they predicted it would not happen because it worked out that the Republicans had very few people running. This time there are almost twice as many Republican seats up for grabs as Democratic seats. That means that it will be very very difficult for the Republican to maintain control of the Senate. I don't see anywhere near enough flipping for a conviction, but we can dream.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Impeachment is the accusation. But once a judgement off not guilty/acquital, that was a trial and I would assume double jeopardy applies.

Probably not. It is not the same as a criminal trial. In a criminal trial if you lose you are off to prison. In an impeachment and trial the only consequences are removal from office.

 

[Polymath257]

Impeachment is the accusation. But once a judgement off not guilty/acquital, that was a trial and I would assume double jeopardy applies.

I'm not sure of that. I certainly has never been tested.

Once again, it isn't strictly speaking a criminal trial. And, for example, civil suits are NOT subject to double jeopardy.

And, again, double jeopardy would not ban an impeachment on a different offense even if it applies.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'll make a bold prediction about Dems taking the Senate...
Dems & Pubs will be at each others' throats.
Spending will balloon.
Taxes will rise.
Government will expand.

Btw, I predict the same if the Pubs keep the Senate.

 

[Salvador]

People who talk about leaving should, for once, back up their words. So many people talk it, but hardly anyone ever actually does.

If the U.S. federal government were to attempt confiscating a substantial portion of my wealth, then I'd most certainly find a way to preserve the wealth my hard working grandfather intended for me and my family to have. If the federal government bureaucracy were to become such socialists who'd dare attempt taking more than one-third of my wealth away from me, then I'd rather be an American ex-pat in Uruguay where I'd get to keep most of the wealth I've either accumulated or inherited instead of being an overly taxed person in what would then have become the Democratic Socialist Republic of North America.

 

[Salvador]

I'll make a bold prediction about Dems taking the Senate...
Dems & Pubs will be at each others' throats.
Spending will balloon.
Taxes will rise.
Government will expand.

Btw, I predict the same if the Pubs keep the Senate.

I'll make a bold prediction about Dems taking the Senate...
Dems & Pubs will be at each others' throats.
Spending will balloon.
Taxes will rise.
Government will expand.

Btw, I predict the same if the Pubs keep the Senate.

There has got to be a limit on how much control the U.S. federal government has over the economy. If U.S. government spending were to exceed a particular threshold, then the American economy would unfortunately collapse as the creators of its wealth would inevitably flee from this socialistic economic insanity.

 

[Salvador]

People who talk about leaving should, for once, back up their words. So many people talk it, but hardly anyone ever actually does.

Be careful what you wish for, middle-class wealth just might happen to diminish if their society's wealth creators were to leave.

 

[Revoltingest]

There has got to be a limit on how much control the U.S. federal government has over the economy. If U.S. government spending were to exceed a particular threshold, then the American economy would unfortunately collapse as the creators of its wealth would inevitably flee from this socialistic economic insanity.

I see no limit on governmental power.
The 16th Amendment allows any income tax percentage.
And the Interstate Commerce Clause has been found to
apply to any intra-state economic activity.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

If the U.S. federal government were to attempt confiscating a substantial portion of my wealth, then I'd most certainly find a way to preserve the wealth my hard working grandfather intended for me and my family to have. If the federal government bureaucracy were to become such socialists who'd dare attempt taking more than one-third of my wealth away from me, then I'd rather be an American ex-pat in Uruguay where I'd get to keep most of the wealth I've either accumulated or inherited instead of being an overly taxed person in what would then have become the Democratic Socialist Republic of North America.

That's what they all say.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Be careful what you wish for, middle-class wealth just might happen to diminish if their society's wealth creators were to leave.

Middle class wealth is already evaporating. And if your John Galts left, we be just fine and life on without them, probably better off because these "wealth creators" only roof the system to better benefit themselves.

 

[Nakosis]

So I have seen that some are saying now Democrats have a good chance of taking over Senate and House for 2020. If so and Trump is int he office, will Democrats be able to impeach him or throw him out??????

If Trump gets reelected, seems unlikely the Dems will try to impeach again.
What's next if Trump is impeached and re-elected