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Democrats cry out for impeachment

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Riders, May 23, 2019.

  1. Riders

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    Many white house folks are saying the White house is crying out for impeachment. Pelosi says Trump needs an intervention for emotional break down. personally I don't think Trump is capable of leading.

     
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    Impeachment is just the carrot, stop following it. If they could have done it they'd have done it already.

    Largely the Democratic voters are over the impeachment thing and not happy that it's continuing to be pressed -- so, they either knock it off or lose 2020 for certain. I'm pretty sure most people regardless of party feel the same.

    The Dems are behind this: National Popular Vote

    And, I find that far more relevant than anything they've said -- it's my #1 reason to not vote for any candidate they field no matter what. You think that's a big deal, how about your vote not counting at all?
     
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    I suspect that the Democrats calling for impeachment are not seriously considering it at this point since they know it would fail in the Senate. Their outrage is for public consumption.
     
  4. sun rise

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    I think Pelosi is doing a great job and we should be patient and let her continue.

    This was from one of Nixon's henchmen, and I think Pelosi is doing this with Trump:

    Well, I think we ought to let him hang there,” Ehrlichman told Dean. “Let him twist slowly, twist slowly in the wind.”

    Let the noose tighten slowly, slowly as more and more evidence is brought to light. It's unlikely that enough Senate Republicans will get off their knees and develop spines to convict him, so the goal should a liberal tsunami in 2020.
     
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    No what they said yesterday was they still don't have enough votes to vote for impeachment. It does not mean they won't have, Thye justw ant to put it on the table and discuss it. But its growing the Democrats who want it are growing thats the point. If we get illegal taxes and find out he has committed financial crimes. that could change. So it can grow. Its not there yet.
     
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    Hear, hear!
     
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    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    What's the charge(s)?
     
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    If they get financial papers and tax papers that say he committed a financial crime that could be it, Pelosi says they are investigating for a cover up,and when they get the papers about Russia collusion it could prove a collusion.
     
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    This is a smart strategy for the Democrats.
    Continually calling for it without actually doing it is good campaign strategy.
    Dishonest, yes....but that's politics, so it's hard to fault them for using this tool.
    And the continuing investigations are another powerful tool. While the Russian
    collusion investigation failed utterly, they kept up the pressure, & never suffered
    from his exoneration. Investigations are an effective end unto themselves.
    And if something impeachmentworthy is discovered, this is just icing on the cake.
    It appears that we've entered an era of intelligent politicking by Democrats, one
    worthy of Machiavelli.

    Caution:
    This isn't to praise the Dems for what they do....just recognizing their skill.
    I think they're gaining the upper hand over Trump. But beware, Dems...
    ....there's still time to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
     
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    If a bullfrog had wings he wouldn't bump his butt every time he jumped. It's over...move on...there's nothing to see here.
     
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    Who needs specific charges.
    The point is to impeach...or at least to continually claim intention to.
    Investigate until something is found.
     
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    Uh what thread are you trying to post under an old thread? This is not Mueller investigation anymore it was over ages ago this is not that,I don't have any idea what your talking about.

    They don't want impeachment for that or any of that. We have new obstruction he i causing now, his financial papers which wasn't in Mueller's report not that I was aware of this is all new honey. Catch up!Trump obstructed justice when he walked out on the infrastructure meeting and is right now by refusing to work!
     
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    If the Dems would just start leading with some good legislating instead of crying all the time.
     
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    It depends upon one's goal.
    Is it to advanced desired legislation?
    Or to attack Trump with an eye towards the 2020 election?

    For those who really believe that Trump is Hitler incarnate,
    it would make sense to sacrifice passing legislation during
    his term in favor of ensuring his defeat in 2020.
     
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    ROTFLMFO! Good one well Democrats came into the office with good legislation yesterday and your President ran out crying what happened there, thats wa snot the DEmocrats!
     
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    They came in with frieidly legislation to work with Trump yesterday and he ran out crying so?
     
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    Less and less does it sound like concern for his ability to perform, and more just straight out persecution. I never cared if he released his taxes, since many other politicians refuse to do so -- Trump is not the _ONLY_ one, and many of them are Democrats. Truth be told, tax returns for businesses don't show much... Don't know if you've ever seen one, but it won't tell you anything about what they were doing for the most part -- it's mostly "profit and loss" sort of thing. It usually will not tell you the exact nature of expenses, loses, etc, just that they happened. That's exactly why I'll keep telling you there is nothing there... I've filled out those forms for years and they barely contain anything relevant. But, that being said -- if he wants to keep them private I certainly think it's his right.

    How does Trump commit financial crimes, btw? He personally does nearly nothing in that regard himself -- he has a banker, accountant, lawyers, and so on that handle all his money and have power of attorney over those transactions. (In most cases...) If anyone went to jail for a crime it'd be them, not him. He'd have only followed their advice; good or bad.
     
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    Deutch bank has already said they wanted to report Trump for financials crimes sorry.Your wrong about TAxes Trump is the only PRESIDENT who did not report the taxes.
     
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    Actually, that's only been going on for 40 years... and it was voluntary...

    Again, nothing you say here changes a thing -- Trump is unlikely to be managing his own money directly in any way (he's just got too many places to be), so it's going to be someone else's fault if a rule is broken.
     
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    So you believe his incorrect claims. Not being charged by Mueller is not being exonerated.
     
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