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Democrats’ outrageous border cruelty

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Democrats aren't advocating open borders. Where'd you get that idea?
Sanctuary cities? What do you think sanctuary cities are?
Blame to socialist democrats? Blame for what, the immigrants? The immigrants are fleeing social and economic chaos caused by right wing, corporate policies.
Who's been telling people to jump the fence? It's not democrats putting want ads in Mexican and Central American papers seeking agricultural, meatpacking and construction workers.
Could of fooled me.

Drivers license for illegals. Free healthcare for illegals. Free school for illegals. Sanctuary cities should be obvious unless you've been living under a rock.

And yeah socialist Democrats have been egging illegals to come over for decades now with the huge 'freebie' buffet they are proposing for them.

So yeah a lot of the blame is on the Socialist Democrats.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Could of fooled me.

Drivers license for illegals. Free healthcare for illegals. Free school for illegals. Sanctuary cities should be obvious unless you've been living under a rock.

And yeah socialist Democrats have been egging illegals to come over for decades now with the huge 'freebie' buffet they are proposing for them.

So yeah a lot of the blame is on the Socialist Democrats.
So your preferred approach would be to make life as dangerous, difficult, hopeless and unpleasant as possible for undesirables outside your own tribe? Do some humans, by accident of birth, deserve less of life than others? Do some have a moral right to exploit or persecute others?

This is why conservatives are so often maligned for being hard and uncompassionate. They're elitist, hierarchical, aristocrats, who believe your own tribe "deserves" the prosperity and "rights" they enjoy more than the outsiders.
Why should different demographics or places of origin have different laws and rights that apply to them?
Revolutions have erupted over inequalities like these.

Democrats have not been egging "illegals" to come over. Republicans have. Do you not believe that corporations are actively recruiting these cheap, submissive, easily exploited foreigners? Google-search and translate some of the help wanted ads from Latin-American papers.

Democrats seek to help others. Republicans seek to exploit them.

Republicans corporatists invade other countries; they exploit the populace, who are kept in their place by government-installed puppets. If necessary, they send in the Marines -- literally.
When the region is no longer profitable or manageable, the corporations pull out, leaving the government and economy in a shambles, and the populace in poverty.
The 'tribal republicans' then wash their hands of them, declare them undeserving, undesirable "others" to whom they owe no moral obligation.

Banana Wars - Wikipedia
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...nt-help/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4984607b4031
Decades of U.S. Intervention in Central America Echo in Present Border Crisis | HuffPost
 

Shad

Veteran Member
immigration_premature_baby.jpg

Democrats’ outrageous border cruelty

By Post Editorial Board

June 25, 2019


Democrats are finally acknowledging the border crisis they claimed didn’t exist, yet many still want to deny aid to suffering migrants. It’s beyond cruel.

Nearly everyone now agrees border officials are overwhelmed and conditions at facilities used to hold and process migrants are deplorable. Reports describe children having to sleep on floors, without adequate food or necessary provisions.

Yet many Dems — who for months insisted the crisis “does not exist” (Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer) and is “fake” (House Speaker Nancy Pelosi) — are nonetheless now insisting that any emergency aid comes with tough conditions that risk a veto by President Trump.

Indeed, some resist any funding at all, simply because it would pass through Team Trump’s hands. “I will not fund another dime,” vows Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, arguing Trump can’t be trusted.
Continues


It's amazing how low Democrats will go in order to put up a firewall against the President. It appears as if they forget that when Obama was in office the Democrats wanted to fund a wall that would have cost many billions more than the one Trump proposes.
The offenses against detainees under Obama are long forgotten. Including his ordering illegals trying to cross to be pepper sprayed on different occasions.
Sedition is ugly. Democrats don't care about the kids. They care about the cause; never Trump.

All of this is the fault of both parties over decades refusing to enforce and apply the law when in power. Half-measures, pandering, gullibility, incompetence, etc. Take your pick and come back for seconds. This goes back to the 80s. They have been lying for almost 40 years about it. They are not going to suddenly stop lying about it for no reason.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
Could of fooled me.

Drivers license for illegals. Free healthcare for illegals. Free school for illegals. Sanctuary cities should be obvious unless you've been living under a rock.

And yeah socialist Democrats have been egging illegals to come over for decades now with the huge 'freebie' buffet they are proposing for them.

So yeah a lot of the blame is on the Socialist Democrats.

Some of your points have been settled cases for decades. Besides Trump the GOP has been weak on immigration since Reagan.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Why didn't Trump and the Repubs fix the border/immigration/wall issues when they total control? Why did they wait until the Democrats had control of the House? Did they need to have someone to blame for their inaction?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
So your preferred approach would be to make life as dangerous, difficult, hopeless and unpleasant as possible for undesirables outside your own tribe? Do some humans, by accident of birth, deserve less of life than others? Do some have a moral right to exploit or persecute others?

This is why conservatives are so often maligned for being hard and uncompassionate. They're elitist, hierarchical, aristocrats, who believe your own tribe "deserves" the prosperity and "rights" they enjoy more than the outsiders.
Why should different demographics or places of origin have different laws and rights that apply to them?
Revolutions have erupted over inequalities like these.

Democrats have not been egging "illegals" to come over. Republicans have. Do you not believe that corporations are actively recruiting these cheap, submissive, easily exploited foreigners? Google-search and translate some of the help wanted ads from Latin-American papers.

Democrats seek to help others. Republicans seek to exploit them.

Republicans corporatists invade other countries; they exploit the populace, who are kept in their place by government-installed puppets. If necessary, they send in the Marines -- literally.
When the region is no longer profitable or manageable, the corporations pull out, leaving the government and economy in a shambles, and the populace in poverty.
The 'tribal republicans' then wash their hands of them, declare them undeserving, undesirable "others" to whom they owe no moral obligation.

Banana Wars - Wikipedia
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...nt-help/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4984607b4031
Decades of U.S. Intervention in Central America Echo in Present Border Crisis | HuffPost
Maybe the illegals should look at cleaning up their own backyard before they come over to somebody else's with their problems. Novel idea huh?

Only with socialist Democrats would they cater to the needs of illegal foreigners more than their own constituency whom which they pretty much ignore in comparison, just so they can look caring sensitive and kind in a bizarre ironic way.

Socialist Democrats have been egging on illegals to come over unchallenged and unabated and have done absolutely nothing to stem the tide of illegals that Trump now has to deal with. It's clearly not a secret given that they just sit on their precious asses and just watch the tide of illegals come over and then offer them sanctuary while giving the royal finger to their constituency and ignoring what they have to say about it.

You don't need much more proof when Trump said he would send all the illegals to the sanctuary cities and see what the reaction is when the Socialist Democrats are put to task by challenging them to put their money where their mouth is.

Oh my the Socialist Democrats couldn't have that....
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I think some people need to do some homework and actually look up why so many are leaving the Northern Triangle Countries that includes taking life & death risks.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I think some people need to do some homework and actually look up why so many are leaving the Northern Triangle Countries that includes taking life & death risks.
I agree and would love to see a multinational approach into helping them cure that problem.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
immigration_premature_baby.jpg

Democrats’ outrageous border cruelty

By Post Editorial Board

June 25, 2019


Democrats are finally acknowledging the border crisis they claimed didn’t exist, yet many still want to deny aid to suffering migrants. It’s beyond cruel.

Nearly everyone now agrees border officials are overwhelmed and conditions at facilities used to hold and process migrants are deplorable. Reports describe children having to sleep on floors, without adequate food or necessary provisions.

Yet many Dems — who for months insisted the crisis “does not exist” (Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer) and is “fake” (House Speaker Nancy Pelosi) — are nonetheless now insisting that any emergency aid comes with tough conditions that risk a veto by President Trump.

Indeed, some resist any funding at all, simply because it would pass through Team Trump’s hands. “I will not fund another dime,” vows Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, arguing Trump can’t be trusted.
Continues


It's amazing how low Democrats will go in order to put up a firewall against the President. It appears as if they forget that when Obama was in office the Democrats wanted to fund a wall that would have cost many billions more than the one Trump proposes.
The offenses against detainees under Obama are long forgotten. Including his ordering illegals trying to cross to be pepper sprayed on different occasions.
Sedition is ugly. Democrats don't care about the kids. They care about the cause; never Trump.
So Trump created this mess with his half-assed policies, but it's somehow the Democrats' fault?
Wow, is Trump ever responsible for anything??
 
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Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Why didn't Trump and the Repubs fix the border/immigration/wall issues when they total control? Why did they wait until the Democrats had control of the House? Did they need to have someone to blame for their inaction?
The Republicans are the party of business. Business likes illegal immigration. IIlegal immigrants work hard, do jobs American citizens won't, at wages Americans won't accept, in conditions American's won't accept. Only when the illegal immigrant question becomes an election issue do republicans take a serious stand against it.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Being coy about it doesn't diminish the facts.
Im not being coy. Seriously, you act as if I can read your mind and just know. Huge amounts of immigrants, theoughout Americas history, came here either because it was intolerable over there wherever they came from, or one way or another forcibly shipped over here. And indeed, oft times their criminals were either of those forcibly shipped here or they came along for the ride and set up shop here.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The facts are, there are few gang members among the immigrants. The immigrants are fleeing gangs. And the gangs they're fleeing can trace their origins back to the US.
Well then I think it's time for a Pablo Escobar style drug dealer hunt to commence.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
So Trump created this mess with his half-assed policies, but it's somehow the Democrats' fault?
Wow, is Trump ever responsible for anything??

The sheeples feel the same way about Trump as they do about God.
Six people in a car crash. Three die.

God-believer response: Thank God three people lived. It's a miracle.

All the while excusing that three people died - God needed some more angels in heaven.
 
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