Deists, Pantheists, Panentheists Only: the D|P Divide

[Jayhawker Soule]

I've noticed that my views of Deism and Pan[en]theism differ markedly. For proponents of each:

• Is there a substantive difference? If so, what is it?
• Why do you identify with one and reject the other?

Thanks.

 

[Storm]

I've noticed that my views of Deism and Pan[en]theism differ markedly. For proponents of each:

Well, truth be told, I'm somewhere in between pantheism and panentheism, but I'll give it a bash.

Is there a substantive difference? If so, what is it?

Yep, the biggest being the separation of God and Creation (in deism).

Why do you identify with one and reject the other?

Because I reject the aforementioned separation.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Well, truth be told, I'm somewhere in between pantheism and panentheism, ...

I haven't a clue where that could possibly be. What is between something and something more? Perhaps in another thread ...

 

[Anti-thesisofreason]

I've noticed that my views of Deism and Pan[en]theism differ markedly. For proponents of each:

• Is there a substantive difference? If so, what is it?
• Why do you identify with one and reject the other?

Thanks.

How do your views differ?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

How do your views differ?

(This is not the appropriate forum for that discussion.)

 

[Anti-thesisofreason]

(This is not the appropriate forum for that discussion.)

Sorry I thought my question pertinent to the discussion.
Perhaps I misunderstood what you meant by

I've noticed that my views of Deism and Pan[en]theism differ markedly.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Sorry I thought my question pertinent to the discussion.

Actually, it's a rather good criticism of my opening post. In fact, it's first sentence was irrelevant.

 

[tumbleweed41]

Is there a substantive difference? If so, what is it?

A Pantheist sees God as being one with nature. A Deist sees God as being outside of it's creation.

Why do you identify with one and reject the other?

I find that Deism tends to refrain from attempting to anthropomorphise or attempting to speculate on the attributes of what I see as an as of yet unknowable deity.

 

[Willamena]

For proponents of each:

• Is there a substantive difference? If so, what is it?
• Why do you identify with one and reject the other?

Thanks.

To me, pantheism has realized the void in all things, and panentheism has realized the void in "I" (inclusive of self) leaving room for a projected "other." Deism can resemble either, but more concretizes the image of "God".

I don't reject any, and don't identify with any (any "-ism"). I identify more with the "mystic" as described by Doppleganger.


On a side note, to be an -ism is to surrender your existence to a label. "-isms" aren't something we are, they are something we engage.

 

[Twig pentagram]

Deist think the universe was created by an impersonnal and unknown creator. Pantheist think universe created itself. Panentheist think the universe is one with the creator, but the creator is transcendent. I call myself a pantheist because the universe exist, but I'm not convinced that holy god/s do. Therefore I've come to the conclusion that the universe created itself.

 

[Twig pentagram]

lifeevery coin has two faces.such as life has two faces life & death.we want to live with enjoy.but

What?

 

[Father Heathen]

hi can any one telling me that what is Deism?

Deism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Willamena]

I've noticed that my views of Deism and Pan[en]theism differ markedly. For proponents of each:

• Is there a substantive difference? If so, what is it?
• Why do you identify with one and reject the other?

Thanks.

I'm a proponent of only one.

1. Yes. Deists may entertain the notion of a god that initiated a causal environment back in time. Panentheists don't have that luxury.
2. Only one affords me an image of god worth defying.