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Degrees of love

Audie

Veteran Member
I do not kill plants to eat them.
yes i do eat vegetabiles but i do not grow them my self. Even Buddha said plants can be eaten.
The worsed we can kill is animals. birds, but ofcourse even eating plants does acumulate karma


Hmmm. So find no harm if you employ hired assassins to kill
for you?

In the event, grow them or not, your veggies are alive.
Every bit of it, steam stir fry ot kill with your teeth.

We wont go into "accumulate karma".

Though it must be bad, for baleen whales, slurping
down tons of krill.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Hmmm. So find no harm if you employ hired assassins to kill
for you?

in the event, grow them or not, your veggies are alive.

We wont go into "accumulate karma".

Though it must be bad, for baleen whales, slurping
down tons of krill.

I buy the food in supermarked, where everything is already dead. If it was possible i woud ofcourse not eat that food too, but unfortunatly we must live of some food
 

Audie

Veteran Member
I buy the food in supermarked, where everything is already dead. If it was possible i woud ofcourse not eat that food too, but unfortunatly we must live of some food


It is already dead IF IT IS COOKED OR
FROZEN. Or otherwise processed.

All the fresh veggies, the seeds and nuts,
the fruit are alive.

Put a carrot in some dirt with water,
watch it grow.

A leaf of lettuce is alive.

You did not address the hired assassin
bit.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
I do not kill plants to eat them.
yes i do eat vegetabiles but i do not grow them my self. Even Buddha said plants can be eaten.
The worsed we can kill is animals. birds, but ofcourse even eating plants does acumulate karma


Uhhh...not sure The Buddha ever said not to eat meat...
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
It is already dead IF IT IS COOKED OR
FROZEN. Or otherwise processed.

All the fresh veggies, the seeds and nuts,
the fruit are alive.

Put a carrot in some dirt with water,
watch it grow.

A leaf of lettuce is alive.

You did not address the hired assassin
bit.

I do not hire anyone to do any dirty work for me personally. In the world today food are not prodused as it was done before. as far as my understanding goes of the act of eating food that was harested to make meals, that as long he food was not intentionally killed to me in person we are allowed to et it, but i can not go to a farm and ask for an animal to be killed so i can get meat to eat. that would be very wrong action to do and i would suffer a lot of karma.
When i buy food in the store, someone has prosessed it yes, but not with any spesial person in mind. so it would not be wrog to eat it.
I do not buy vegetabiles that still are in soil.
The seeds is ot eaten,

Yes you can always find fault in my living too, i am not perfect, but i do my best to never harm ny living being
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Uhhh...not sure The Buddha ever said not to eat meat...

Buddha said not to kill animals to get meat, and not to have others kill for you directly.
But the meat in it self is not wrong to eat since the meat is not alive anymore. But there will always be a moral issue on this topic
 
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Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Hmm. I am such an expert on love, so-

Of course this is personal, not presented
as a universal.

I have had two boyfriends. I thought this was
love, with the first one. Now I know it was not.

Second one, love was like the dawn coming up, it
was not all at once, all or nothing. I was scared
of it, letting myself love or letting him close.

It has grown and deeped the whole time, even when
I was not ready to admit it to mydelf that he had
found his way over under around and through every
every barrier.

So to me, love grows, I hope so much that ours never stops
growing.

I stand corrected. I think you're right that love can progress, deepen. I was thinking of a different kind of love in my post -- one that appears to be all or nothing. I should not have generalized that kind to all kinds of love. Thanks for the correction!
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Buddha said not to kill animals to get meat, and not to have others kill for you directly.
But the meat in it self is not wrong to eat since the meat is not alive anymore. But there wil always be a moral issue on this topic

Maybe to those that tend to nitpick. A dead cow is a dead cow. Being eaten allows that cow to have purpose in life.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
You love a person and you find out bad things about them and so start disliking them, right?

Once you allow yourself to unconditionally love someone you will always love that person no matter what. However, it is possible that the person could do something you don't like, even to the point of not being able to stay with that person.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
I do not hire anyone to do any dirty work for me personally. In the world today food are not prodused as it was done before. as far as my understanding goes of the act of eating food that was harested to make meals, that as long he food was not intentionally killed to me in person we are allowed to et it, but i can not go to a farm and ask for an animal to be killed so i can get meat to eat. that would be very wrong action to do and i would suffer a lot of karma.
When i buy food in the store, someone has prosessed it yes, but not with any spesial person in mind. so it would not be wrog to eat it.
I do not buy vegetabiles that still are in soil.
The seeds is ot eaten,

Yes you can always find fault in my living too, i am not perfect, but i do my best to never harm ny living being

I do find fault in your efforts to deny, evade acknowledging
or accepting responsibility for yourself.

Pretending a carrot is not alive just because it is
not in the soil?

You do hire people to kill for you, "personally" or not.

By your standard you could buy into a mutual fund that makes
money from human trafficing, arms smuggling or producing
meth, and have no responsibility or tinge of conscience.

You've no part in the displacement ( death ) of the
plants and animals, ie the wildlife, to make room
for row crops?

"As long as I dont know / it was not specifically
for me"?

I have heard of rationalizing, but that would do
as a wiki entry.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Buddha said not to kill animals to get meat, and not to have others kill for you directly.
But the meat in it self is not wrong to eat since the meat is not alive anymore. But there will always be a moral issue on this topic


We kind of agree, though the distinction between
direct and indirect strikes me as phony and, irresponsible.

I do eat some seafood, but it has to be a responsible/
sustainable harvest and some species I could not
eat regardless

I think there are significant spiritual issues
you are completely missing re what one can
eat with good conscience.

I will say, if you are interested.
 

Shantanu

Well-Known Member
Once you allow yourself to unconditionally love someone you will always love that person no matter what. However, it is possible that the person could do something you don't like, even to the point of not being able to stay with that person.
That is very profound.;)
 

Audie

Veteran Member
That is very profound.;)


It is deep!

Lets try this, too. Suppose you fall in
love with a faker of some sort.

He / she only wants money, leaves
you for dead after they get it.

Or it was AI you were talking to all
those months.

The director of the Met, asked about
forgeries-does it really matter, if nobody
can tell?

To which Dr. Hovind replied-

"Art is love, if it is false, it is not love."

Everything is conditional.
 
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