Death and rebirth

[Unveiled Artist]

Ive heard it debated whether The Buddha taught after enlightenment, one dies. They have no rebirth (and no heaven and no god/Brahma) I think its called nihilism. I found that we will die and that will be it.

How do you view death in light of the Dharma? Be a bit specific for convo sake.

Here is why I see death as it


Being subject themselves to aging... illness... death... sorrow... defilement, seeing the drawbacks of aging... illness... death... sorrow... defilement, seeking the aging-less, illness-less, deathless, sorrow-less, unexcelled rest from the yoke, Unbinding, they reached the aging-less, illness-less, deathless, sorrow-less, unexcelled rest from the yoke: Unbinding. Knowledge & vision arose in them: 'Unprovoked is our release.

This is the last birth. There is now no further becoming.'
Ariyapariyesana Sutta: The Noble Search

The Buddha does describe elightenment as heaven but never to be mixed with abrahamic views.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Oops

 

[Aupmanyav]

Ive heard it debated whether The Buddha taught after enlightenment, one dies. They have no rebirth (and no heaven and no god/Brahma) I think its called nihilism. I found that we will die and that will be it.

A recycling is not nihilism. When the skandhas come together, they would create new forms. When one understands, one abandons ignorant ideas.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

A recycling is not nihilism. When the skandhas come together, they would create new forms. When one understands, one abandons ignorant ideas.

When there is no more rebirth (not recycling ), we die. Thats it. We no longer have attachments. We die. Thats how The Buddha's dhamma reads. I never heard it called recycling. Is that a hindu metaphor for reincarnation?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Oh. If you can find it, there is another of the same thread everyone else is posting. I accidently clicked the create thred so it duplicated it.

 

[Aupmanyav]

When there is no more rebirth (not recycling ), we die. Thats it. We no longer have attachments. We die.

I do not think Buddhism says that. The stage of 'Nirvana' is indescribable. Buddha said when he dies, even Indra and Brahma would not be able to find him.

sopadhishesa-nirvana - sa-upadhi-sesha - (nirvana with a remainder)
(After enlightenment, Buddha attained that)
parinirvana or anupadhishesa-nirvana - an-upadhi-sesha (nirvana without remainder, or final nirvana)
(Blowing out of the flame of a candle, Buddha's death. You ask where the flame has gone?)
Nirvana - Wikipedia

Postinmg in the other thread also.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I do not think Buddhism says that. The stage of 'Nirvana' is indescribable. Buddha said when he dies, even Indra and Brahma would not be able to find him.

sopadhishesa-nirvana - sa-upadhi-sesha - (nirvana with a remainder)
(After enlightenment, Buddha attained that)
parinirvana or anupadhishesa-nirvana - an-upadhi-sesha (nirvana without remainder, or final nirvana)
(Blowing out of the flame of a candle, Buddha's death. You ask where the flame has gone?)
Nirvana - Wikipedia

Postinmg in the other thread also.

I would quote suttas but Im not an abrahamic and most certianly not a christian. Its very straightfoward understanding of the nature of life, mortality, rebirth, and death. Religion need not be explained mystically for it to make sense; nor, it need not be translated from foreign languages.

 

[Twilight Hue]

It's more a realization of emptiness.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Or of the whole, whatever it is.