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Featured DAYLIGHT HOURS HAVE LENGTHENED

Discussion in 'Theological Concepts' started by WINDINWATERS, Dec 7, 2016.

  1. WINDINWATERS

    WINDINWATERS Member

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    Has anyone noticed that the day light hours have lengthened.
    At sunset the last light just keeps lingering and even after the stars have come out light can still be seen, last night where I live the last light extended an extra 20 minutes and even after that the sky had a white streak of light high in the sky for a further period.
    This morning again where I live the first light occurred 31 minutes earlier than the weather bureau had predicted for the time of first light.
    This has extended the period of day light for the day by more than 51 minutes, that was yesterday and this phenomenon is developing. I would not be surprised next week to arise with a dawn of 3 am and sunset after 8 pm. I m not saying this will occur but it is heading that way it appears.
    What do you think have you taken any notice of the correct first light/last light and compared it to what is occurring in your region at the moment and what do you imagine could cause such an EVENT.
     
  2. fantome profane

    fantome profane Have you read the Mueller Report?
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    Where do you live?
     
  3. WINDINWATERS

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    Does that matter, if it is happening in my region it would be happening in yours, can you confirm this.
    Find out your first light time for tomorrow morning, observe the time and get back to me thanks
     
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    Nope. It gets dark at about 4pm here and the sun rises at... Well I don't know, to be honest I tend to wake up late. But today I'm awake at 6:30, so I can tell later when it happens. But according to a quick Google search, the times of sunrise and sunset are 8am and 3:55pm, with the latter being correct from my observation.

    The light hours have shortened, like they should, since we're nearing the solstice.
     
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  5. Treks

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    It does matter, because it you're in the southern hemisphere the days are getting longer because we're approaching summer solstice. In the northern hemisphere, days will be getting shorter, because they're approaching winter solstice, as Illykilly mentioned.

    Also, there are several stages of twilight and dawn, so make sure what you think is 'sunrise' and 'sunset' match the definition (and times) your weather bureau are giving you.
     
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    Thanks for the reply, as I am in the southern hemisphere this is my summer and we have the longer hours at this time of year. Could you be a little bit more specific and you may need to do an accurate observation if you are interested in taking this further.
    You say you have done a google search and have quoted times of 8 am and 3.55 pm for sunrise and sunset times, this is not quite accurate as for example you may have a first light time of say 7.45 am and sunrise time of 8 am and something similar for the sunset and last light times.
    Disregarding the morning as you are still asleep and it appears not willing to make the observation for the morning dawn, would you say that as you quoted 4 pm sunset is it actually dark at that time or is there still a lingering light in the sky. If sunset is at 3.55 pm as you say last light would be a later period, the globe needs to rotate about another 6 degrees for the last light to finish, is there also any light at all remaining in the sky as we are getting this strange band of white light quite high above the horizon well after the last light time.
     
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    I live in the hinterland, about 20 miles from the nearest town and I can attest that morning comes fast and night comes quicker. I am in the Pacific Northwest and we are nearing the winter solstice here. What I am meaning is that the twilight times are fairly short. My guess is your area is no different than it has always been, you've just begun to notice. Was it any different for you, say, 30 years ago? 40 years ago?
     
  9. Lyndon

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    I think it may have something to do with Trump being President, we all know he is bad for the environment, and changes may already have started to occur!!
     
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  10. fantome profane

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    The official times given for sunset or sunrise refer to the point when the edge of the sun's disk lowers beneath the horizon or when the edge of the disk rises above it. This does not mean that all of the light from the sun will disappear and the night will become instantly dark. It is to be expected that the sun will continue to shed a considerable amount of light for a while after the disk of the sun is no longer visible. How much light you see in the time immediately after sunset will also depend on the weather and even the position and phase of the moon. It is not like turning off a light switch. And of course the same applies to sunrise. You should expect to see (if you are awake) the day getting brighter a little while before the disk of the sun comes over the horizon.

    It should also be noted that in the summer when the days are longest this twilight time period is also longer. In the summer there is a longer period between official sunset and the time when it seems really dark. In the winter it seems like the sunset is quicker.
     
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    You can check this website for detailed sunrise/sunset times: Sunrise and Sunset Calculator

    It even tells you when to expect twilight and such.

    Also, I'm in the northern hemisphere, quite up north (UK). So that makes days quite short in December. Everything seems to be normal so I have not noticed what you describe.
     
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  12. WINDINWATERS

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    The official first light time for my area is what really surprised me a few minutes here or there does not mean much but half an hour early, still trying to get over it and will be up at 4 am to reconfirm
     
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    That is what I did, That is why I know it is half an early in the morning than it is supposed to be !
     
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    I was hoping the trump stuff would end but it is now the beginning of a trump this and trump that era it seems
     
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    Just to update on today's first light which reconfirms it is occurring much earlier than it suppose to.
    9th December supposed first light is 4.50 am for my region, fist light observed at 4.07 am.
    I am aware the northern hemisphere is a differing season to the southern hemisphere but this must be happening in the northern part of our globe as well, can anybody confirm this EVENT. Love WINDY
     
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    There are differing times. These are the times in my area. 40 16.3' N, 74 05.3' W

    Twilight Astronomical: 5:30
    Twilight Nautical: 6:03
    Twilight:Civil 6:37
    Sunrise: 7:07

    Sunset: 16:30
    Twilight Civil: 17:01
    Twilight Nautical: 17:35
    Twilight Astronomical: 18:08
     
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    That is all well and good how about you arise one hour before first light and observe to verify these times as accurate, otherwise it is just talk
     
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    It also depends on how close you are to the equator.
    Twilight is much shorter there than closer to the poles, because the relative speed of the earth's rotation is greater at the equator. A person on the equator moves around 25,000 miles per day. A person on the poles only moves a few miles.
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    I'm pretty sure the sun is getting bigger. This would explain what you're seeing. Look up at the sun the next time you get a chance. It's clearly larger than it was even a week ago.

    I wonder why the government and media is hiding this?

    Most likely, they're trying to prevent mass panic.
     
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