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Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Nimos, Feb 11, 2020.

  1. Nimos

    Nimos Well-Known Member

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    Sorry that was a bit of a click bait title :D

    Being an atheist my self, there seems to be a lot of post on these forum directed towards religious people and their beliefs and scriptures etc.

    So thought that was a bit unfair, so found this video with 10 questions for atheists:

    10 Questions Atheists CANNOT Answer




    These are just the questions written out from the video.

    1. Does science answer everything?

    2. Why do atheists care if people worship God?

    3. Can nothing create something?

    4. How do you know that God doesn't exist?

    5. What is the origin of life?

    6. Where does our morality come from?

    7. If you had evidence of God would you become a Christian?

    8. Why are there no observable transitional forms in the present?

    9. Do you live according to what you believe or what you lack in belief?

    10. If God exists will you not lose your soul when you die?

    (Obviously I didn't make the questions, so I wont be able to clarify them any further)
     
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  2. Quintessence

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    It's a so-so list of questions. There are better ones that are less... well, maybe it's better to let the better questions speak for themselves:
    • Conceptions of god vary tremendously among different types of theism. Which ideas about god to you reject, and why? What does it mean to reject these conceptions of god?
    • Conceptions of god typically relate to a culture's highest values or principles. What are your deeply held values or principles? Aren't these principles the functional equivalent of honoring gods?
    • Conceptions of god are often conveyed in ways that embrace artful use of creative expression, but taking these expressions literally can be a problem and is often not intended. If you approached religious mythology as a creative exercise, how might your acceptance of gods change?
     
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  3. sciatica

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    sorry but its my job to love everyone including damn atheists!
     
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  4. osgart

    osgart Nothing my eye, Something for sure

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    Being atheist I oppose atheism quite often.

    RF is interrogation oriented
     
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    No. it does admit we cant know everything.

    No. Something has always been.

    Cause god has human attributes, human needs, punish people humanly, described by human theology, is known by peoples experiences, and just like humans, god has many different colors that reflect every other god believers political thoughts.

    When asked directly: He moves in mysterious ways, he's "all power" (what is All?), we "only" know him through these earthly means and we only understand it through these earthly practices.

    Name a quality of god that humans cannot relate to. Go from there.

    Upbringing, environment, what makes us safe, connection, fear, human nature.

    No. Id be hindu or similar outlook.

    Yes. like anything, its work in progress regardless the foundation of our morals.

    No. If i believed in god, it wouldnt be life or death. Things just is. Personally growth would be my focus. Since i have no personal concept of god, i feel we die. Our spirits exist but not in the matter of casper.
     
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  6. icehorse

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    1. Does science answer everything? - nope, and it doesn't pretend to.

    2. Why do atheists care if people worship God? - I don't until they start messing with secularism or human rights.

    3. Can nothing create something? science doesn't make that claim.

    4. How do you know that God doesn't exist? most atheists allow for the very, very slim chance of a deity.

    5. What is the origin of life? we're still working on that.

    6. Where does our morality come from? probably it's an evolutionary advantage.

    7. If you had evidence of God would you become a Christian? if it was good, predictable, repeatable, reliable evidence, maybe.

    8. Why are there no observable transitional forms in the present? if this is an evolution question then the answer is that every living being IS in a transitional form when viewed from the future.

    9. Do you live according to what you believe or what you lack in belief? i live my values, morals and ethics.

    10. If God exists will you not lose your soul when you die? if i do, he's a jerk.
     
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  7. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    I didn't know they did, why do theists care I'd people don't worship their version of god?

    It is at least mathematically feasible, and the original conditions are known

    I don't but there is 100% lack of evidence that a god doe's exist.

    Chemical reaction

    Humanity or possibly even mammalian

    Absolutely not, been one, don't like what it does to people

    All (actually most) life is evolving, check out the Langkawi bent-toed gecko.

    I live as a human being who believes in humanity

    If? And what is a soul? I have never seen one, nor has anyone else
     
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  8. SomeRandom

    SomeRandom Still learning to be wise

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    Geez I’m not even an atheist (per se) and even I found those questions dumb
     
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  9. SalixIncendium

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    I wanna play!!

    No.

    Most I've met don't, so long as their worship has no impact on their lives.

    No atheists I know make such a claim

    I don't. I just know that I've seen no evidence of a deity's existence.

    Not fully known, but evidence points to abiogenesis.

    Our? We all share the same morality?

    But I digress. It appears to come from sentience.

    No. If I had evidence of God, I'd acknowledge God exists, but there are things in Christianity aside from the existence of God that I don't agree with.

    I'll just leave this here: A New Bird Species Has Evolved on Galapagos And Scientists Watched It Happen

    Neither. Belief (or lack thereof) isn't a fundamental concept for my life.

    Nope. Just my body. :)
     
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  10. Nimos

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    Guess its only fair that I actually answer them myself.

    1. Does science answer everything?
    No not at all, for the most part it simply tells us what is definitely wrong.

    2. Why do atheists care if people worship God?
    I don't think a majority of atheists care if other people worship God or not. But if bad ideas comes as a result of such a belief and are harmful to people, then that is a good enough reason to care.

    3. Can nothing create something?
    Not as far as I know.

    4. How do you know that God doesn't exist?
    I don't, but doesn't really think its up to me to proof anyway. Exactly as I don't see why I should proof that unicorns doesn't exists.

    5. What is the origin of life?
    No clue

    6. Where does our morality come from?
    Don't know for certain, but seems to be a good survival ability for intelligent beings such as humans. So think it is very plausible that it is a result of evolution.

    7. If you had evidence of God would you become a Christian?
    Yes, would see no reason not to.

    8. Why are there no observable transitional forms in the present?
    Everything is in a transitional form.

    9. Do you live according to what you believe or what you lack in belief?
    According to my believe

    10. If God exists will you not lose your soul when you die?
    Probably, but maybe that would also be for the best, as im not sure living forever is all that fun after 2 million years, knowing you still have an eternity left.
     
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  12. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    My first instinct was to move on and not bother, but what the heck?

    1. Does science answer everything? No, of course not, and neither pretends to, nor even supposes that it ever could. But that leaves out the corollary question, left unasked -- "Is there ANYTHING that answers everything?" And again -- so far at least -- the answer is "No."

    2. Why do atheists care if people worship God? We don't (or at least I don't). I don't care if people own pets, or whether they prefer cats, dogs or gerbils -- so long as they don't poop in my yard and keep me up at night. And thus, worship away, so long as it has nothing to do with me.

    3. Can nothing create something? Meaningless question, since in fact nothing is impossible. (The meaning of that statement, by the way, is that existence is the default -- or even God couldn't exist. And if existence is the default, science can answer a lot of the rest.)

    4. How do you know that God doesn't exist? I don't. Neither do I know whether or not there are powder-blue 30-ton water buffalo on planet Beta-Orion 3. But in the absence of anything at all to suggest that either are true, I feel quite safe in ignoring the questions at all.

    5. What is the origin of life? A question that has not yet been resolved. Making up a story about a garden, some earth, a rib and all that doesn't resolve the question in any way, anymore than any of the other strange creation stories you'll find around the world.

    6. Where does our morality come from? We have evolved to be a rather special animal -- a social species with brains that allow for a great deal of independent thought. That is, we can't survive without the help and support of others of our kind, and yet we can wind up in default or our own obligations to others. Many defaulters have removed themselves from the gene pool (see the Darwin Awards), and thus the basics of human morality are pretty much common throughout the world -- no matter which religion (or not), race or culture you belong to (But also notice I said "the basics." There are different takes on morality in other religions and cultures. If there were only one God, and that God is the author of our moralities -- how would you explain that?)

    7. If you had evidence of God would you become a Christian? Why Christian? Why not Muslim, or Hindu, or Jain? To become Christian implies that I had evidence not only of God, but also of the rest of the Christian fable.

    8. Why are there no observable transitional forms in the present? There are -- tons of them. You and others like you are just ignoring the fact that every single fossil ever found is transitional, in that it fits somewhere within the tree of life on earth, between what came before and what came after (however different they might be). Those who refuse to look at science at all (because their religion makes it uncomfortable for them), can't understand that fossilization is a very, very rare occurrence, and that most animals that die are not fossilized at all. It takes very special conditions.

    9. Do you live according to what you believe or what you lack in belief? I live according to what I believe, of course. To do otherwise would be hypocrisy. I would ask many believers, however, if they also "live according to what you believe." Because I've found an immense amount of evidence that many, many do not. If fact, a whole whack of them run around proclaiming every day that "I'm a sinner,"' meaning that they are not living according to their belief that they shouldn't oughta sin!

    10. If God exists will you not lose your soul when you die? I don't have a soul to lose, so no. Nothing you can do -- absolutely nothing -- can give any evidence that there is a thing called a "soul" which is somehow independent of the totality of the physical being that is a person.
     
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  13. Skwim

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    Awfully dumb questions, but what the hell . . . . . . .


    1. Does science answer everything?

    Of course not

    2. Why do atheists care if people worship God?

    They don't. It's what people do in the name of god.

    3. Can nothing create something? REALLY DUMB QUESTION

    Don't see how

    4. How do you know that God doesn't exist?

    Atheists don't. They simply have no reason to believe he does

    5. What is the origin of life?

    Abiogenesis

    6. Where does our morality come from?

    Empathy and reason

    7. If you had evidence of God would you become a Christian?

    Nope. Christianity's god is far too messed up and mean
    8. Why are there no observable transitional forms in the present? REALLY DUMB QUESTION

    There are observable transitional forms.

    9. Do you live according to what you believe or what you lack in belief? REALLY DUMB QUESTION

    Why would you think anyone would live according what they lack in belief?

    10. If God exists will you not lose your soul when you die?

    Don't even know what a soul is much less believe I have one.
    (Obviously I didn't make the questions, so I wont be able to clarify them any further)

    Not obvious at all

    .
     
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  14. Polymath257

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    No. Science cannot answer questions of morality or aesthetics. It can inform such, though.

    If that was all they did, I would have no issue at all. The problem is that God-worshipers often try to get their ideas put into law and make it so otherwise nice people are discriminated against.

    Ambiguous question. Can there be something with no cause? Absolutely. Was there a time when there was nothing and a later time when there was something? No. Here is a basic: 'nothing' is non-existent.

    Pretty much the same way I know that there is no invisible pink unicorn.

    Well, I can tell, you when (about 3.8-4.1 billion years ago) and where (the planet Earth) and some more specific factors (certain chemicals, etc), but we don't yet know specifics.

    We are social beings who are able to make generalizations.

    Not if it was evidence for the Islamic God.

    Look around. ALL species are transitional.

    Huh? I'm not sure I even understand the question.

    I guess that depends on which God exists of the many humans have invented. A just, good, compassionate god would not condemn someone to eternal torture for a mere hundred years of incorrect conclusions based on minimal evidence.
     
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    No

    I could care less.
    That is until the theists insist I must live by their gods rules.

    I have no idea.
    But my guess would be no,

    I do not "know" that god does not exist.
    I simply have no reason to believe that god does exist.

    I Do Not Know

    Good question.
    The Smith Principle shows that Christianity is not the only source for morals.

    There is no ultimate and absolute standard for right and wrong. What's right and wrong is decided by the society in which an individual finds himself in. Judgements about what is right and what is wrong are transitory. Judgements about what is right and what is wrong vary to a huge degree from one culture to the next. It seems plainly evident that to any objective observer, absolute right and wrong do not exist.
    ~Unknown (at least to me)

    I do not know.

    What?
    If you are talking about fossils, you will have to be more specific.

    I do what I think is right and avoid doing what I think is wrong.

    Define soul.
     
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    Far too simplistic to waste time on
     
  17. sciatica

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    that is exactly right. and ive seen this on other forums. some atheists think they are lawyers and put Christians who respect the Bible in an eternal witness chair. They don't like it the other way round. When they have to defend their non belief.
     
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    What's there to defend about non-belief? The default is to not believe until there is evidence. I have not seen sufficient evidence, so I don't believe.

    What atheists do to Christians in terms of asking for evidence is nothing more than people do for anything else in life, I suspect. Certainly, any scientist that makes an existence claim is supposed to provide a great deal of evidence before that claim is accepted.

    And, I suspect you don't believe in garden gnomes or invisible pink unicorns. Do you think that non-belief needs to be defended? If so, how do you defend it?
     
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    Would be interesting to see the breakdown of atheist/ Christian and other faiths in regard to the moderators here. Im sensing a majority of atheists but I might be wrong.
     
  20. osgart

    osgart Nothing my eye, Something for sure

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    They use the burden of proof thing quite often, and the foolproof rules of logic, and the scientific method as their shield against ever being questioned. Ridicule is a championed method. And of course ridicule involves contempt.

    I don't mind being corrected in defiance. But the ridicule thing, and the one way street nature of a conversation is something I have zero patience for.

    No human is a God that is a never, ever question me kinda person. It's hypocritical.

    Now I am not Christian but I listen intently to civil discourse from any side. Ridicule and acting as a God above being questioned is monstrosity I don't entertain nor tolerate. They circumvent using their own reasoning, and their own thinking on the matter. Historically these are the people that oppress.

    It's a cheap tactic to act as thought enforcers. It's pathetic character. And if I ever met it on the street I would be ready with a gun threat to back off. Because the people that do it are out to intimidate, and have no good intentions. It's like they are trying to hold court on a person.
     
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