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DACA expected to be ruled illegal

Should DACA be saved, congress pass a law?

  • Yes

    Votes: 13 72.2%

  • No

    Votes: 5 27.8%
  • Total voters
    18
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F1fan

Veteran Member
The 5th circuit federal court, a very conservative court, is expected to rule DACA is an illegal program. If that is the ruling the over 600,000 DACA Dreamers could face deportation. If not immediately deported they could see their ability to work be eliminated. DACA applicants are children of immigrants who have grown up in the USA, and many don't even speak Spanish. They face deportation to the country they were born in.

The Dreamers could file for a stay of the ruling, but that would be temporary, and then appealed to the Supreme Court, which is also very conservative and unlikley to succeed. The Biden administration has few options to save the program. No dount these people, many with careers in the USA, would face catostrophic consequences that wasn't anything they did, as their Varents brught them to the USA.

Congress could pass legislation to make DACA a legal program, but hasn't. It's doubtful it would get enough votes in the Senate.

Should DACA be saved?
 
Shaul

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Each case on its own merit. Simple but difficult.
Assuming the Republicans take control of the House and Senate this idea is a non-starter. Here's an idea. Take the money approved for the 87,000 IRS agent expansion and instead use it to ramp up the Immigration courts. Then clear out the massive backlog of pending illegal entry cases.
 
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F1fan

Veteran Member
Shaul said:
Each case on its own merit. Simple but difficult.
Assuming the Republicans take control of the House and Senate this idea is a non-starter. Here's an idea. Take the money approved for the 87,000 IRS agent expansion and instead use it to ramp up the Immigration courts. Then clear out the massive backlog of pending illegal entry cases.
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So your position on this policy is that it should be passed into law? As it is if the fifth circuit deems DACA illegal all these people can be deported. They have no claim in court because DACA is what they are depending on for their immigration status. Each of the 600,000+ DACA recipients would have to file claims of asylum. But since they did not come here escaping persecution rather came here from their parents decision what grounds are they really have in courts?

This is all brutally unfair.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Shaul said:
Each case on its own merit. Simple but difficult.
Assuming the Republicans take control of the House and Senate this idea is a non-starter. Here's an idea. Take the money approved for the 87,000 IRS agent expansion and instead use it to ramp up the Immigration courts. Then clear out the massive backlog of pending illegal entry cases.
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Or we don't punish people over what their parents did. Many dreamers only know English, they only know America, so why kick them out?
That is abusive, inhumane and heinously cruel to do to someone.
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
F1fan said:
The 5th circuit federal court, a very conservative court, is expected to rule DACA is an illegal program. If that is the ruling the over 600,000 DACA Dreamers could face deportation. If not immediately deported they could see their ability to work be eliminated. DACA applicants are children of immigrants who have grown up in the USA, and many don't even speak Spanish. They face deportation to the country they were born in.

The Dreamers could file for a stay of the ruling, but that would be temporary, and then appealed to the Supreme Court, which is also very conservative and unlikley to succeed. The Biden administration has few options to save the program. No dount these people, many with careers in the USA, would face catostrophic consequences that wasn't anything they did, as their Varents brught them to the USA.

Congress could pass legislation to make DACA a legal program, but hasn't. It's doubtful it would get enough votes in the Senate.

Should DACA be saved?
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Just send them to Canada.
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Shadow Wolf said:
Or we don't punish people over what their parents did. Many dreamers only know English, they only know America, so why kick them out?
That is abusive, inhumane and heinously cruel to do to someone.
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Well that's why the sanctuary cities exist. Start bussing them there.
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Valjean said:
The Right has become callous, tribal, and nativist. They lack compassion and fear The Other.
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That's why they are being shipped to the left-wing sanctuary cities so the left-wing can show everyone in the nation how capable and loving they are.
 
Sgt. Pepper

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
Valjean said:
The Right has become callous, tribal, and nativist. They lack compassion and fear The Other.
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Not everyone is on the right. I was a conservative and a registered Republican for 26 years before I left the Republican Party shortly before the 2018 midterms. I abandoned the Republican Party and registered as a Democrat because I finally had enough of Trump and his loyal supporters, specifically evangelical Christians. And before I left the party, I was constantly at odds with other evangelical Christians over issues like LGBTQ+ rights and equality, their misogynist views on women, treating them as inferior to men, teaching that wives should always submit to their husbands, their blatant prejudice against immigrants (whether they have documentation or not), and the blatant racism I saw from most of the ones that I either personally knew or met online regarding minorities in general.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
F1fan said:
Should DACA be saved?
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Absolutely, as it would be inhumane to deport those who in many cases only know this country and work and pay taxes.

The irony is that so many say we need employees, so now those that do work are going to possibly be deported???
 
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F1fan

Veteran Member
Twilight Hue said:
That's why they are being shipped to the left-wing sanctuary cities so the left-wing can show everyone in the nation how capable and loving they are.
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Shipped?

What don’t you like about migrants?

What threat do they pose to America?
 
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