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Cut Off During Valedictorian Speech

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic ☿
Premium Member
Hmm... not sure I have a solid opinion on the matter. Sure the kid was just throwing a temper tantrum, but I'm honestly surprised more students don't do that during graduation. If I were more extroverted, I certainly would have (I HATE graduation ceremonies, and never attended any of mine, and have no intention of attending any future graduations. My older and wiser me now would have my younger self inform the staff ahead of time, though.)

Then again, perhaps he should have just done just that: be a noshow. Still disrespectful to the people who planned the ceremony to include the speech, but at least the show can just move on, with confusion leading to questions and rumors, and subsequently answers online. Might have been more powerful.
Yep. The students are already starting to do that with the dances around here. 2nd post of this thread:

Smart kid. I can see why he's valedictorian. :p

It's amazing all the crap students have to put up with these days from school administration. One of the high schools in my area slapped so many rules on for student dances that the students just quit attending them. If the administrators keep this up, pretty soon none of the students will attend their own graduation. {How embarrassing would that be for the administration?}
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
I left my school as long ago as 1952 so I thought I would check to see how things had changed ....


At that time it was a fee paying, boys only senior boarding school, to day it takes boys and girls both boarding and day students up to 18 years old.
However it now incorporates a junior school that shares the large open garden campus and sports facilities but has different teaching and learning accommodation and term dates.


Some of the sports halls and sports fields are are offered by arrangement for use by the local community. As part of the schools charitable status. (pays no tax)


The calendar for this year shows the Speech day for the senior school to be on Saturday 29th June. But term does not end till 10 July. The space in between is mostly taken up by events and sports both school and county level and national.


As in my time, there is no graduation as such, we do not have graduation diplomas as we all have our individual examination certificates from the various external examination boards. (and they come later in the year.)


Some schools do hand out a sort of certificate at these affairs, but they simply list your actual attainments and are of no official value. So speech day is still after the intervening 60 odd years.... still Speech Day.

Strangely... in most English Public schools (fee paying) there is no separate administration, except for the the bursar and his secretary. every thing else is handled by House masters and heads of department... over seen by the Head master.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
I'm still trying to figure out how having rules for an event that requires planning, especially in consideration to time, is the same as oppression. But also how the consequences being carried out for not going along with the plan and rules is supposed to make someone a hero of free speech.
I think this kid needs a taste of what real oppression is, and be told what he is going to say regardless, rather than having the ability to right his own speech to say what he wants within the schools guidelines.
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
I'm still trying to figure out how having rules for an event that requires planning, especially in consideration to time, is the same as oppression. But also how the consequences being carried out for not going along with the plan and rules is supposed to make someone a hero of free speech.
I think this kid needs a taste of what real oppression is, and be told what he is going to say regardless, rather than having the ability to right his own speech to say what he wants within the schools guidelines.

Pretty much. :yes:
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
Yep. The students are already starting to do that with the dances around here. 2nd post of this thread:

Well, I didn't go to the dances, either. I had dragons to slay! Who has time for prom? (Yup, didn't go to prom, either. In fact, I didn't attend any of the student gatherings, even the so-called mandatory ones.)

Now, if we had, oh, a Senior trip to Disneyland, where we get the entire park to ourselves from midnight to dawn, now... oh, wait. :p
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
I'm not sure kids skip dances out of a form a protest, unless protesting against lameness and a boring night counts.

My son went to his first high school dance back when he was a Freshman (he'll be a Junior when school starts back up again in August), and he's been to other dances at school as well. They're actually pretty popular as they can fill the entire gym. Whether they're informal or formal dances, the event organizers at his school are getting something right by pulling off successful dances that the kids really enjoy.

So, when he came out of the gym to meet me at my car in the parking lot afterward, I got a story about how a girl came up to him wanting to dance with him by shaking her booty right up against him. It was his first adventure into teens as a group waking up to sexuality in a fun atmosphere. Parents around here are more upset about these things happening, but dang I know some of those parents....and I remember how they acted at school dances, too. They're wanting the school to crack down on such "lewd behavior."

But the kids love the dances. The restrictions go so far as to them going through a search of purses and bags and emptying pockets before entering to disallow weapons, alcohol, and drugs. They have a dress code they need to follow. And there are adult chaperones who make sure things don't get out of hand. So far, no complaints from the kids. They have something to do in a safe environment on the occasional Saturday night.

I don't see any of my son's friends walking out in protest anytime soon. There's a lot of freedom in these events, but a few boundaries that the students just cannot cross no matter what. Violate the dress code, they're escorted out. Some might see that as stupid and arbitrary, but overall, they want the substance of the event.

Anyway, I thought I'd throw that in there. School dances still exist. And even when a DJ has to play by the rules, they can still be wildly popular.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
My son went to his first high school dance back when he was a Freshman (he'll be a Junior when school starts back up again in August), and he's been to other dances at school as well. They're actually pretty popular as they can fill the entire gym. Whether they're informal or formal dances, the event organizers at his school are getting something right by pulling off successful dances that the kids really enjoy.

So, when he came out of the gym to meet me at my car in the parking lot afterward, I got a story about how a girl came up to him wanting to dance with him by shaking her booty right up against him. It was his first adventure into teens as a group waking up to sexuality in a fun atmosphere. Parents around here are more upset about these things happening, but dang I know some of those parents....and I remember how they acted at school dances, too. They're wanting the school to crack down on such "lewd behavior."

But the kids love the dances. The restrictions go so far as to them going through a search of purses and bags and emptying pockets before entering to disallow weapons, alcohol, and drugs. They have a dress code they need to follow. And there are adult chaperones who make sure things don't get out of hand. So far, no complaints from the kids. They have something to do in a safe environment on the occasional Saturday night.

I don't see any of my son's friends walking out in protest anytime soon. There's a lot of freedom in these events, but a few boundaries that the students just cannot cross no matter what. Violate the dress code, they're escorted out. Some might see that as stupid and arbitrary, but overall, they want the substance of the event.

Anyway, I thought I'd throw that in there. School dances still exist. And even when a DJ has to play by the rules, they can still be wildly popular.

I can imagine them being fun, after all, the dances my school had were packed. But we were, basically, a redneck school, so I think my idea of fun just happened to be vastly different then most teenagers. Once I finally found my first real true love, we were on the same page, as far as dressing up, taking pictures for the 'rents, taking the money for dinner, making brownies for friends, throwing our own party, and then an evening of excellent intercourse in strange places. :D

Oh, to be young. :)
 

dust1n

Zindīq
The administration uses the money they raise from dances.

To pay for the dance, is my understanding. You know school administrators don't make profit, right? Administrators are probably trying to make up for funding decreases (and some; frivolous lawsuits).
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic ☿
Premium Member
It's cool. Yea, that seems far more reasonable then all this graduation speech mess. [quip]God only knows what might happen if a penis and a bum touched with four layers of clothing between them.[/quip]

It looks like that class won't be able to raise enough funds to hold a graduation ceremony next year. They have a year left to raise the funds. We'll see what happens, I guess. :shrug:
 

dust1n

Zindīq
It looks like that class won't be able to raise enough funds to hold a graduation ceremony next year. They have a year left to raise the funds. We'll see what happens, I guess. :shrug:

Unfortunate. None of any this justifies what that kid did though.
 
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