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Featured Countries like Australia prove secularism does not equal communism and other violent antitheisms

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by danieldemol, Jul 21, 2019.

  1. danieldemol

    danieldemol Well-Known Member
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    Countries like Australia prove secularism does not equal communism and other violent antitheisms.

    This thread is basically about secularism vs theocracy
     
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    I prefer secularism. But Australia is probably too busy arguing over football codes and which beer is the best to care about religion all that much.
     
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  3. Lyndon

    Lyndon "Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
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    The prime Minister is a Pentecostal, how secular is that??
     
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    Could be completely secular, as long as his Pentecostalism doesn't become policy.
     
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    Its pretty secular. Communism wouldn't have allowed a pentecostal prime minister in office.
     
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  6. danieldemol

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    Very when you consider pentecostals are a minority religion in Australia
     
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    Yes. Europe too.
     
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  8. danieldemol

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    Certainly parts of Europe although France made the list of top ten for religious persectution in 2018
     
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    His personal beliefs are irrelevant as long as he's not using the law to impose them upon others.
     
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  10. PruePhillip

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    The PM does not have powers like Communist societies have. He can't go against
    the grain of cultural factors. Witness Howard's belief that Aboriginal policy was
    utterly destructive to Aborigines - he seized the moment during controversy over
    Aboriginal child abuse to attempt to change the Australian mindset (and failed in
    the process - but that's another story.)
    So an atheist or religious PM changes nothing.
     
  11. danieldemol

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    Those Australian “cultural factors” are secular for the most part.
     
  12. Musing Bassist

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    Australia is secular, not atheist.
     
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  13. PruePhillip

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    Exactly, as my profile shows below, there are fundamental
    changes in the moral landscape. This is of concern to
    conservative political parties. At some stage polygamy is
    going to be the hot-button issue. Conservatives (and 80% of
    liberals today) oppose this. But when it comes, polygamy
    will be a political platform of Aust Liberal Party, USA
    Republicans, British Tories etc.. This is because Dems;
    Greens and Labor parties will support it, so too will society
    in general.
     
  14. danieldemol

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    Your speculations are unfounded, if 80% of liberals oppose polygamy today why assume it would change significantly in the future?
     
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    It's a Good Question.
    I ask some middle age and elderly advocates of gay marriage "When did you change your mind?"
    That embarrassing - because it's obvious that even gays saw gay marriage as extreme, and
    denied they would support it - back in the 1970's and 1980's.
    The Gallop Poll shows how FAST polygamy is moving - 7 to 16% in just 15 years. That's more
    than 100% increase. Right about now I suppose close to one quarter of liberal Americans
    support polygamy. The rest deny they ever will, but when it arrives it will be like a blinding light
    of revelation - and there's one more thing to attack the church and conservatives over.

    How will polygamy happen? Like pederasty (also rising) it will come through various channels.
    The most obvious one is to accuse anyone who opposes it as being "racist" because some
    cultures practice polygamy. It could come through a rights issue, like abortion did. It could
    come through as a fight against white Anglo-saxon culture. Don't know.
     
  16. Kangaroo Feathers

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    Darn Austrians, first they give us Hitler, now this? They should stick to their choirs of lonely goat herds. :mad:
     
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  17. Kangaroo Feathers

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    Have you got an argument against polygamy among fully informed and consenting partners other than appeal to tradition?
     
  18. danieldemol

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    I’m not sure what you mean by pederastry, but I think intercourse between overage with underage people will keep its social stigma.
     
  19. danieldemol

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    I’m not arguing against it, but I do question how it would work. Say if you had the consent of one partner for an additional spouse but not the other, do they have to divorce for the one who wishes an addition to get one or what?
     
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