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Featured Countries banning of kosher meats are forcing "expulsion" of Jews

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by IndigoChild5559, May 16, 2019.

  1. The Ragin Pagan

    The Ragin Pagan A.K.A. The Kilted Heathen

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    Are those animals placed under human care? More often than not, no. You're bringing nothing of worth to this discussion. Also learn to edit your posts; it is a simple forum feature. And while a gun may be more humane (sometimes, not always), as explained this poses significant risks to society. Please read before throwing out what has already been addressed.
     
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  2. We Never Know

    We Never Know Well-Known Member

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    So now your moving it to animals under human care. You mean those animals we feed, vaccinate, raise, protect, only to slaughter? How is that humane at all?
    Those other animals we don't have anything invested in, why kill them at all?
     
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    We Never Know Well-Known Member

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    Oh darn. Another grammar whiner. Get over it.
     
  4. The Ragin Pagan

    The Ragin Pagan A.K.A. The Kilted Heathen

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    Re-read (or this time actually read) my first post to you. This was always the position.

    Try someone who doesn't want to read through five posts of meaningless juvenile nonsense because you can't compose your thoughts in a single post.
     
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    Have you hunted before? Do note that slaughtering standards are drastically different for hunters. Stun-guns (bolt) are not even considered. Slitting throats and double-tapping are normal. Few people are complaining about that as they are not directed to care.
     
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  6. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    It really shows how shallow this initiative is, because theyre willing to make exceptions for hunters, but not for certain religious groups.

    ...the inconsistency shows something... strange..? Even illogical..?
     
  7. The Ragin Pagan

    The Ragin Pagan A.K.A. The Kilted Heathen

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    Only the reasons for hunters versus livestock had been explained. You just don't want to acknowledge it.
     
  8. IndigoChild5559

    IndigoChild5559 Loving God and my neighbor as myself.

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    You've seen videos of abuses, not videos of how it is followed as prescribed. Such do not have videos online.
     
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    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    The explanation was illogical.

    ...As if a bullet blown straight through the stomach and out the *** is going to be a humane death. Not every hunter is going to peirce the heart every shot.
     
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    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    You might as well rip a deers leg off and beat him to death with his own hoof. :)
     
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    And why is that ? Is it because in reality they do not exist?

    Do you think that the lawmakers did not investigate kosher and halal slaughterhouses? If people want to defend this practice openness if the only weapon that they have.
     
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    That is true. But again we are talking about relative humane deaths. Hunting is almost always far less traumatic than predation and since man removed the predators we need to take their place to have healthy populations. No hunting at all is even less humane. The populations are prone to diseases that not only affect them but can affect domestic animals as well.
     
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    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    Here we agree.
     
  14. The Ragin Pagan

    The Ragin Pagan A.K.A. The Kilted Heathen

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    So then my question to you, landon, is repeated: would you rather have hunters or wolves?
     
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    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    Both. We can introduce animals from all over the world to the California environment, and create a multi-cultural animal kingdom. Per se. And shoot them all during the proper 'season'.

    ...I want some Red Panda and sloth hamburgers.
     
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    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    I have had a rabbit burger once. It went good with aged cheese.
     
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    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    You know, most people dont actually know this, but "bearcats" (binturongs) naturally produce the aroma of popcorn. Thats a fact.

    ...I wonder if they taste like popcorn too.
     
  18. The Ragin Pagan

    The Ragin Pagan A.K.A. The Kilted Heathen

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    ...Sure.
     
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  19. IndigoChild5559

    IndigoChild5559 Loving God and my neighbor as myself.

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    Because the death of an animal, however necessary, is a sad thing. And without scandal, there really is no motivation for these other groups to do clandestine video's.
     
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    That is a weak excuse. Your side claims that it is painless, but yet won't show clear videos of the process. That should tell you something.

    Why the objection to stunning? It should be viewed as part of the kosher slaughter process.
     
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