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Featured Cosmology of the Electric Universe

Discussion in 'Science and Religion' started by Native, Feb 28, 2021.

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  1. Native

    Native Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist

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    I said:
    Just get rid of "Newton´s superstitious two body gravity model" and use the EM calculations everywhere in cosmos.
    Just count on the Earth Atmospheric Pressure instead of "Newton´s superstitious two body gravity model". It´s the same law and the same amount of "force".

    BTW: Newton never explained which forces were at play in his "Universal Law of Celestial Motions" - which was contradicted on the galactic scales, hence it wasn´t universal at all.

    But this contradiction led later on to the "dark matter" inventions on an Universal scale (27 %) because the scientists forgot (and still forget) to obey the strict Scientific Method to discard a contradicted hypothesis.
     
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    Please demonstrate how to do this.

    You're going to have to break out the math.
     
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  3. Native

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    I´m doing MY own philosophical, analythic and logical homework for you.

    Do your own mathematical homework from these informations - Atmospheric pressure - Wikipedia

    EDIT: Compare the Atmospheric Pressure with Newtons g - "Gravity of Earth".
     
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    Subject: Video content: "Shaking Up the Dark Universe - The Dark Horses of Dark Matter".



    Listen here what Newtons superstitious two body attraction law of celestial motion has led to of assumptions and confusions in modern physics and cosmology.

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    The participants even thinks these Fermi Observatory bubbles of EM gamma rays could have something to do with "dark matter" - just because "black galactic holes" once were assumed too. It´s all very strange EM (and EU) ignorance which is taking place.

    Such observable EM gamma rays logically can´t have anything to do with "dark matter" at all.
     
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    Focus, Native!

    Science is about being able to test, refute or verify any model (whether they be hypothesis or scientific theory). You not only test the explanations, you must also test the predictions and any mathematical equation. These tests involved observations - HENCE, evidence, experiments, data.

    A model that cannot be tested or it is untestable, are deemed unscientific, unfalsifiable.

    AND this thread you have created, should be about the “Cosmology of the Electric Universe”, not about Dark Matter and not about the Big Bang Cosmology.

    You want us to look at the Electric Universe as a valid cosmological model.

    And that the electromagnetic forces are the only forces causing galaxy creation and star creation and planet creation, where, according to you, gravity and gravitation forces ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE for galaxies rotating, for planets orbiting the star, that the sun’s energy is not caused by Stellar Nucleosynthesis, that tides are not caused by gravity of the moon, that objects falls due to EM forces and air pressures, and so on and on.

    If Electric Universe is a valid scientific model, then surely you have equations from the Electric Universe model that account for everything that EM are responsible for all these natural phenomena, and that you have evidence and data that verify EM equations are true.

    So where are these equations that Electric Universe have for all those phenomena?

    What tests have been done that "verify" the EU model?
     
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    Why do you refuse to put the math formula's where your mouth is?

    Your link does not explain to me how to do what you asked me to do. In fact, the only time it mentions gravity, it contradicts your claims.
     
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    It´s MY OP and if you can´t make the connections from the assumed gravity matters and Big Bang fantasies to the Electric Universe, it´s you own intellectual fault by only listening to the authorities and others who ignores the logical EU.
    I´ve provided the philosophical background to which forces are at play, so just do your own analythic and critical analyses and math and convince yourself!
     
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    I told you to compare the contents of these two links

     
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    These are just words.

    You need to test a model, and analyze any evidence to see if the model (that include explanation, predictions and equations).

    IF YOU CANNOT TEST THE MODEL, then this philosophy of yours - Electric Universe - is just words, baseless, unscientific and useless.
     
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    Your first step is to get rid of your hypnotized biases against the EU.
     
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    BTW:

    You even could have an EU if you could understand the ancient myths of creation in which LIGHT is mentioned as the creation process :)

    But of course you ignored this too.
     
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    That can only happen if you actually present VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE & DATA that support the explanations/predictions/equations in the Electric Universe.

    I cannot accept something that are not testable and verifiable.

    All you are doing is demand that we take your Electric Universe on faith. How is the EU any better than religion or useless & untestable philosophy?
     
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    So you want me to focus on myths, not science?

    So EU is nothing more than just another myth and religion?
     
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    iI also could happen if you begin to think for yourself and make your own conclusions.
     
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    To you this really don´t make any difference as you don´t understand neither of the involved concepts :)
     
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    Big Bang?
    Dark matter?
    Dark energy?
    Newtons occult force?
    Galaxies which moves in overlight speed?
     
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    Please be more clear about how you think they are linked.
     
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    All testable and being tested. So far, all observations agree with the theories.
     
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    Why should he do your work for you? You are the one claiming an alternative explanation. Give details.
     
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    Do your own analysis homevork :)
     
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